Superficially, the Lian Li PC-800 looks like a very nice case. But it has 3 issues: 1. The perforated front and rear faces "can" let a lot of noise out of the case, but with the right components it can be a plus. Unfortunately, you do not have the right components. 2. It is aluminum. While nice and ...

The 6800Ultra uses about 20w more than the 6800GT, so to get two of them it will add about 40w more to your load which works out to be 354w; let's just say 360w. That is still below the max power of the Tagan 430 that you want. Now the question does the Tagan 430 have enough amps on the 12v line to...

If I am correct after reading your posts, bottom line is: I am on the safe side with this psu (after mentioned upgrade) even with 6800 GT/Ultra SLI setup? Thank you, Greetings! The 6800Ultra uses about 20w more than the 6800GT, so to get two of them it will add about 40w more to your load which wor...

From that Xbitlabs review: The workload was created by the special S&M 1.7.2 utility What is this utility? And does it stress both cores as efficiently as dual instances of Prime95? Very little info on S&M 1.7.2, at least in English. It's a program that stress both CPUs and memory. How does it comp...

quikkie wrote: IIRC these are the approximate values for power draw
x2-3800 ~110W (usually less)

Wrong, especially considering that TDP is 89w.

The X2 3800+ has been measured at 65.1w under full load.

CORRECTION - I was looking at the A64 3800+ originally (59.6w). The A64 X2 3800+ comes in at 65.1w.

Can someone bring some light into this: What is max. (non 7xxx) SLI based config which can be used with this psu: http://www.tagan.com/pages/products/2forceS/e_tg430_u22.html and this configuration: - AMD 3800+ x2 - 1 SATA II HDD (+1 hdd later) - 1GB DDR400 (+ 1GB later) - DVD Writer - CD Writer -n...

Processors are not religion. There is no need to devote yourself to AMD or Intel. There is no need to preach to others to do the same. They are just processors... It's all about efficiency and performance, and it is best to choose which processor most suits your own needs. For now I would say AMD h...

AFAIK, any Socket 939 motherboard is capable of supporting A64 X2 as long as the BIOS is up to date. Since A64 X2 has been out for around 9 months there are no shortages of MBs that will support X2 right out of the box. Some may need to be updated. Go for namebrands like Abit, Asus, DFI, Gigabyte, a...

I thought I would take one more step up on my new build, but when I look for mb's on Newegg there are only 2! Could this really be true? Plenty of Athlon x2 boards, but only 2 Athlon 64 x2 boards. Am I missing something? Umm... Do you have anything else affecting your filter results? The best thing...

That is such a bad article. The only components I would select from the setup is the Creative Labs Audigy 2 ZS. I would take the 7900GTX, but that's an overkill for my gaming needs.

Loyd Case is halfway right in selecting the Seasonic S12 series, but 600w is way overkill for the proposed system.

seems that for the 10 or so extra dollars for the seasonic over the fortron, you get a retail box, more accessories (screws etc) better warranty, probably more quiet, and a little more overhead (not entirely important) I guess I'm nickle and diming here. The seasonic is OOS right now for a couple o...

Based on the chart, if you really do feel that the lower noise justifies the extra cost of the CPU, then go for it. But you should realise that different testing environments will result in slightly different results. Also consider the fact that you should allow for +/- 3% margin of error for all me...

You need not look any further. Just go ahead and pull the trigger for the S12s. Seasonic S12 PSUs are excellent for efficiency, low noise, and quality. Seasonic is the typical default answer you will get. If you are worried about future upgradability of your PC, then consider the fact that the Seaso...

dragmor wrote:The funny part was that the CO processor you could buy for the SX chips was actually a DX chip that turned the SX chip off.

Yeah, you gotta love Intel's marketing. And the co-processor doesn't work if you take out the SX chip which is effectively de-activated.

hmm, lemme see If I can remember: 386DX - can't remember if that was the intel chip or the AMD clone Ah, that brings me back to my pre-teen days. Watching my brother struggling to put a PC together. 386DX - Intel CPU with integrated math co-processor 386SX - Intel CPU w/o integrated math co-process...

I believe some of the MSI nf4 boards come with a 24bit 7.1ch Soundblaster Live. The problem though is that SB Live is only available on premium ATX motherboards for the moment. Going for on-board sound means sacrificing a little bit of CPU performance depending on how fast your CPU is, and the qual...

There is a very good post over at Tomshardware's forum about Intel and AMD CPUs. It seems to be a pretty good resource for newbies that gives some details to the various processors, and his recommendations. The post is written by MadModMike . He also includes his own personal exprience regarding RAM...

I'm still holding on to my Athlon XP mobile. I'll be upgrading this year though. The X2 4600+ was my intended CPU, but I may be switching back to Intel when Conroe/Merom are released. It all boils down to the combination of performance, heat, and price; in that order.

Intel power supply specs might make sense for those who use Intel manufactured motherboards, and maybe even for motherboard makers who use Intel chipsets and follow their motherboard designs. So what's your point? Standardization is evil and everyone should be require to have an electrical engineer...

Hifriday wrote: From this TGdaily report seems it will run with DDR2 so maybe AM2? Also power consumption will be in the "range" of current Turions and just carry a "small" premium over it's single cores... we'll see...

No, the new Turions will be S1, not AM2, and definitely not S754 as some would hope.

Take a look on MSI K8NGM2-FID , it's a great stable µATX board. It seems to have become a bit rare lately in the US. Newegg.com doesn't even list it as an out of stock item. ZipZoomFly lists that MB as out of stock, but with a hefty $110 price tag. I think it is one of the better GeForce 6150 board...

Based on your current wishlist (as of this post) the case you are thinking about doesn't specify if it uses a m-ATX PSU, or a standard ATX PSU. The Hauppauge you selected is the MCE version, that means you need Windows Media Center in order for the card to work. So Windows XP Home/Pro will not work....

Thanks for the good info on the processor! Considering that case, with a nice fullsize (right? Do I need a special PSU) SPCR-recommended PSU. How much power do I need? I'm not sure which of these MOBO (or other) to go with, the DFI has more features with S/PDIF out and Svideo out, but does the ASUS...

Using a m-ATX doesn't have any affect on noise. Actually that's not true because all boards based on the GeForce 6100/6150 are passively cooled. That's a good thing. The only real shortcoming with any m-ATX MB is the fact that there are only two PCI slots. Also be aware that if you decide to add in ...

Maybe you should rename the subject thread to:

ALL HAIL THE 89W X2 4400+!!!!!!

I just found the two processors being sold in retail packaging side-by-side at ZipZoomFly with a $7 price difference. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductList.jsp?ThirdCategoryCode=010423 The only discrepancy is that while AMD shows them as having the same part number when in retail packaging, Zip...

I'm not sure if the 89w versions have shipped yet. I just remember reading an article about the "newer" Athlons last month. When they are shipped both versions will be available. The "older" versions with the higher TDP should cost less than the cooler versions to get rid of that stock. I would chec...

I'm guessing Intel will have an upper hand both idle and at full power, but of course, I'd be happy to be wrong (if AMD puts miraculously even lower numbers on the table). This is a long time in coming. I really hope the next industry competition cycle is power/watt. The GPU chip manufacturers need...

Seems like a decent product, and probably a lot less intimidating to install. I remember first seeing the Big Typhoon, and I said to myself "Wow, that's big!" Torque is an issue for some people, but based on some reviews I've read the Big Typhoon is a pretty effective HSF. The Little Typhoon should ...

I would say forget about the past and focus on the present and future CPUs from both AMD and Intel. Both companies have had crap CPUs in the past, but the good thing is that they have been able to improve upon the design or develop a totally different architecture. Intel had egg on it's face with th...