drjunk wrote:http://www.techpowerup.com/index.php?44274

no surprises there, the HD 3850 is in another league... for $150 it's not an bad deal, but that depends on how much it will trail the $200 8800 GT 512mb; and if it is a match for the $150-$175 8800 256Mb

yes I had routed my cables through the top holes (8-pin EATX from behind) then saw that it would be impossible to replace the side panel :/

@Blacktales: my HW config: http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart ... rticID=620
temps.. still testing:)

Bluefront wrote:An XP-120 is hard to beat...

XP-120 is easy to beat, the SI-128 SE will outperform it by 5-10°C.

JazzJackRabbit wrote:Seems like a decent midrange card.

quite an understatement, drop the "mid" will ya? Zotac 8800 GT €220 faster than 8800 GTX out of the box

drjunk wrote: The hd3850 is supposed to be 105w which is less than half the power of the hd2900xt. I think its going head to head with the 8800gt.

the HD 3870 will be slightly slower than 8800 GT at $200 price point; the HD 3850 will be slower than the 8800 GT and cost $150.

Koni wrote:It would be interesting to compare the test results to the XFX GeForce 8500 GT passive. Personally, I could live with having an 8500 instead of an 8600 if I get better temperatures and lower power usage.

the 8500 GT is no good at ANY game though...

got one in for testing:) - 5.25 Fan controller aficionados go away, when closed the door has simply no clearance from the 5.25 bay front. So tight it felt like it would hit the eject button of the disc drive whenever closed so do not expect to add a layer of accoustipak. Otherwise, the design seems ...

Don't know on what you base your opinion, but in my testing of the Hyper 212 it proved to be quite good;
http://www.madshrimps.be/?action=getart ... rticID=633

motherboard removal... but lay the tower case on its side and there is NO way the HSF will come of

pputer wrote:Can the Mine or the Ultra 120 be used with 120mm Yate Loon fans? I have the fans on order. I plan to buy a Core2Duo board such as the Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R.

yes, Mine can mount up to 140mm fan, Ultra-120 needs open flange fan for the clips to fit;

Scythe Infinity enjoys similar performance increase when push pins are swapped for bolt through kit
http://www.madshrimps.be/gotoartik.php?articID=567

Except that Gemini car radiator thing

mounting of the Gemini superior to Ninja, bolt through, you'll have to throw the case from 3rd floor to get it to come of;)

it will never see retail daylight

1-3°C increase in performance, but copper price is going through the roof, such a heatsink, $100 pricetag?

most likely to show customers the possibilities, if a large customer sees something in ordering 1000 Ninja HSF but wants them in all copper, he can see it's possible:)

Hey Spanki, no chance with the Enzo yet, will bug them more:)
will reinclude Mine on your request for next roundup

If not included in this roundup, will try to include it in the next, together with the IFX monster maybe?

nicke2323 wrote:Thank you very much jmke, I feel quite a bit less confused now.

I suppose it's too late to add the new Ultra-120 Extreme (with extra heat pipes) to the roundup? (I assume the Ultra-120 revA you mention is the original version.)

Extreme not released yet :/

That 's it ! Asus just released Arctic Square, a cooling device with 4 heat pipes ! http://www.google.fr/search?hl=fr&q=Arctic+Square&btnG=Recherche+Google&meta= welcome to 2004, Asus has been using heat pipes for quite some time now;) In an older Dell GX280 system I opened up at work, there was al...

Scythe has tendency to show coolers at Cebit/Computex with full copper design, but not all make it to market:)

yes CPU cooler is new one , unannounced so far

thermalright had a similar one up at Computex

that 1000 page review was indeed so informative and easy to read:)

nicke2323 a valid topic, and I've also wondered and pondered on why the Ultra-120 on K8 gave me such results while SPCR and Anandtech got results on par/better than Tuniq 120. on K8 I could not get it to perform better, re-did the test several times, but I noticed that SPCR uses S775, Anandtech also...

no no MikeC got it right, bLacklist was what I was going for:)

I thought cooler temps made it smaller...

check your mail Mike, good news:)

ya blacklist:) or back of the list, backlist;)

don't do that:) mailbombing is never the answer imho, only thing it will cause is possible backlist?

anyway check your mail;)

MikeC, send me the email you want to send to them, I'll forward it to my Sharkoon contact, and put you in cc: