I'm sorry, I didn't realise the term 'undervolt' meant you had to do it a specific way. As far as I knew, 'undervolting' was when you put the VOLTS UNDER stock settings. I didnt realise it was only undervolting if it was done through the bios. I apologise for any confusion this might have caused :ro...

All he said is that not many amd64 mobos support undervolting, while it's been my experience that almost all of them do.

Regardless, accidents happen, and I'd rather not risk losing 200gb of data because I didnt want to have to power down before I moved a drive.

I dont know about the specific grill on that case, but I do know that even an extremely wide-spaced wire fan cover blocks significant amounts of airflow. even the open-cell 2mm filter in the front bezel of my Xpider was choking airflow. One of the great advantages to having a quiet system, is that e...

I just dropped my 5900Ultra from 300mhz to 75mhz in 2D with no ill effects.

With passive cooling, that translated to about a 5C drop.

Not too shabby for something that cost precisely nothing.

I'm pretty sure that my DM10 wouldnt reach 58.4 dB if it caught fire and the platters fell out while spinning.

Where did they take those readings, under a freeway overpass?

Moving drives around while they are on is a recipe for disaster.

My old case had a duct, but it let too much noise out, and really my temps of 55C under load isn't going to cause any damage.

Is that a carrying handle?

I can confirm that the K8V stops the CPU fan when temp drops low enough - mine is stopped right now.

Still, if you look at a graph of my CPU temp, it's a long sinewave. I'd rather have a steady low RPM than a constant cycle of speedups and slowdowns, it's a lot harder to tune that out.

~El~Jefe~ wrote:thats not undervolting it. your board supports it. many boards do not. id say most.

You might want to double check that.

Any board that supports CnQ, by definition, supports undervolting.

Running it on an angle is fine.

Maxtor wrote:the hard drive can be mounted in any orientation

Maxtor Knowledge Database

Let me put it this way: I had a perfectly good Maxtor drive that refused to work after I ran it at an angle for 30 minutes. Make SURE it is perpendicular!!! I really doubt that was because of the angle unless 1. You moved it while it was running or 2. The drive was +10 years old I've run HDs on ang...

There is absolutely no danger with any drive made in the last 5 years. While Im not sure if the reasons that used to exist were actually valid, they're not even relevant anymore. the seek heads are no longer programmed with the locations of the tracks, they find them themselves, gravity doesnt play ...

I've never run across any indication that there are compatibility issues, other than standard ones such as older motherboards not picking up drives over 32gb

Any angle is fine. Look at iPods, laptops, etc FDB does make a difference. The reason you didnt used to be able to mount at an angle was because the bearing would wear unevenly, that's not a problem anymore. Older HDs had to be placed flat and right-side up because the heads were programmed with the...

I just sold an 800mhz Celery taken out of a laptop on ebay for like $5

~El~Jefe~ wrote:Not many amd64 mobo's support undervolting at all.

???

Are you kidding? That's one of AMD's major marketing devices for the A64, Cool n Quiet.

My Athlon 64 is currently passively cooled at .950V, if system demand rises, it'll bump itself up and the fan will kick in.

What an improvement. I'd be running it with the standard 92mm Antec fan, and an 80mm Stealth both at 7v for months. I just took out both those fans, replaced them with a single 92mm Nexus at 7v and removed all the grills. The breeze coming out the back is at least as strong as it was before, and it'...

Isn't it important to keep the HD level? Someone told me that if it isn't perfectly horizontal, it wears out alot faster. That was true about 10 years ago, but fluid bearing and such have eliminated this problem. You can mount your HDs in any orientation you like, although I tend to keep them at sq...

I just went down to NCIX the otehr day to pick up some Nexus fans

And I just got my Xpider case from FrontierPC

It fits everything you want, except the front only takes a 92mm fan

Cost me $60

They've only got 2 left though.

Are you kidding me?

Check out NCIX on Broadway @ Burrard or FrontierPC just down the road.

MikeC lives in Van, and he gets tons of stuff.

I'm running a Zalman dual heatpipe fanless cooler on my 5900Ultra (one of the hottest cards out there) and it's just spiffy. I usually run a 70mm fan at 5v just to keep a slight breeze over the bottom edge, but apart from that... I think having two many exit-paths takes away from overall performance...

Those fluctuating temperatures are generally bad, especially for something with moving parts like an HD.

I'd recommend trying out different fan speeds and finding out at what point the drive levels off at a decent temp.

I just recently decided to try out the Crystal n Quiet article, and I've got to say I'm amazed at the results. Stock speed: 2200mhz - Undervolted to 1.375v from 1.500v Medium Inc.: 1800mhz - Undervolted to 1.125v from 1.300v Lowest Inc.: 1000mhz - Undervolted to 1.025v from 1.100v Don't think I'll b...

I still havent found out how to enable it on my SATA DM10

None of the tools mentioned work.

I read on another forum that someone emailed Maxtor and asked them, and they told him there wasnt a way to do it.

I think that's pretty odd.

sthayashi wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again, Stretch magic is the way to go. It's like $3 or so and you can string up a LOT of drives for what you get.

Arts and crafts store maybe?

BTW, I do realise that the elastic bands will become brittle and break over time.

I wanted to try it out with something cheap before I dropped $15 on bungee cord only to find out that it didnt make much of a difference.

I'll be replacing them after exams are over.

I finally retired the wooden case after nearly a year. I suspect it caused the death of my 120gb Maxtor drive. After much research, I decided to pick up a Chenbro Xpider, and it seems pretty nice, and it gave me some room to finally try out hard drive suspension, and man oh man, silence never sounde...

Or you can just skip all that and take a look at your temperatures and noise levels.

Because really, it's only the end result that matters.