I too have the purpose of quietness as well as coolness. Case in point was, probably I missed out on hard drive cooling whilst tinkering with case setups - I can't know for sure, since my speedfan log went in the "fire". Did heat kill it? It's been used för three and a half years, maybe it's time h...

Silence is good and all that, but it does make your hardware run hotter. Have you killed your hardware with heat? Please post your stories. Also, which hardware is most sensitive to heat, i.e. when you push your HDD or PSU into 50-60 deg Celsius, what goes first? ------------------------ Recently my...

I just have to chime in with the no-no for AC fans, they're cheap for a reason (my 120 case fan had clicking sounds, the fan on my CPU cooler broke...).

Apart from that, not up to par with contemporary equipment, but 65 W sounds a lot these days, am I right?

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That sounds like a tight fit, MB+CPU usually builds 10 mm. This case seems not to have a MB tray, so no extra build for that.

Here's a reviewwith a low-build cooler.

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Great idea, you're buffering the heat in betwen CPU load sessions. The downside with water is that things tend tp grow in it, so using distilled water and a hermetic cover would do the trick. If you want to calculate how much water is needed, here's a formula: 1 litre of water will hold 4,182 Ws/C T...

Zalman also has ready-mades with fan connectors, not always reeadily availably - I think one of them is called RC65.

Removing the pci cover results in two things (if you don't have intake fans): 1. Case impedance is lowered, so more air is moved by the fan, OR you can lower the fan rpm for equal air flow as before. 2. Air paths will change, can be good or bad. Naturally, air past the video card etc will increase, ...

See my sig, I use the Freezer for a P4 2.4. Sadly, the fan broke because of my modding, but if you kep your hands off it it's excellent value for money. Otherwise I would agree bout the Ninja, it's top performance. Check out reviews of both here , Ninja and Freezer.

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I think cards have height restraints to their components, that the VM-101 has taken into account, at least that's what I saw with my Zalman 80D-HP. Only conflict could be with the heatsink on the actual GPU die, that might interfere with die frame or other components, but from the pictures of the VM...

I'll have a go at the X1900 - HIS has gotten rave reviews for their custom heatsinks, the #3 revision even includes a heatpipe, similar to good CPU coolers. Whilst I don't own a HIS card, I would none the less suggest fitting an aftermarket cooler, since they have larger cooling area than any stock ...

Hi, seems I made a stupid purchase, Palit X850 XT AGP - it has no on-board temp sensor (like all the other X850 boards have), so I'm left with a high and steady rpm fan cooling the card. Bummer, would have thought a high-end card like this would have this functionality. Anyways, I'm thinking of remo...

Thanx for the reply, good to hear both the 7800gs and the x800xl work fine. Yes, ATItool is standard for me, no option available there, not in Catalyst ocr Speedfan either. Hope they take it back, since this function is stated to be present on the ATI site. (Read somewhere you can read the temperatu...

I have a PALIT AGP X850 XT, with a screaming fan. For the price I paid, I would have hoped for good fan control, but none is to be seen. I've read reports on other forums about temps and fan speeds on the X850 XT, is this function only there for the PCI-E version? Have you got an AGP X850 XT with wo...

1st, I bought an 120 AC fan, made some clicking noise, never made it into my case so far (using Everflow cheapo fans, very quiet). 2nd, the formula for noise at different rpms is: noise change=50 x log(ratio of rpm change) Example, go from 2000 rpm to 1000 rpm, ratio is 0.5, log (0.5) is 0.3, 50 x 0...

Google for cpuburn, and for overall pain to your system: rthdribl (only from a jp domain, but real good stress test)

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Not sure what the eq of 8500 is (old), but any sub $100 card would probably be able to cool fanless, either underclocked via ATItool, or with larger heatsink retrofitted, or even proper fanless solutions (Zalman,Vantec). There's also a plethora of fanless cards in that proce range. Lastly, Gigabyte ...

Actually that won't help much, since SpeedFan steps through those increments pretty quickly. The usual cure is to use only two speeds, much less annoying then constant ramping (unless you happen to find the spot where you just balance, which makes the fan go up and down pretty quickly). I've set my ...

http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/hard ... vergleich/
(In German, but graphs are understandable even for us English speakers)

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Why is there more noise from the fan when the air path is obstructed? First, refer to Comairotron site , to understand the concept of operating point. When you obstruct the path, system impedance increases, and given the same rpm, the fan will give less air flow. This in turn, drives the fan along a...

This is perfectly in line w Bluefront's ducting tips - you have made maximum use of all air that ever enters the case. On that note, your thrre point measurement is the standard way for gauging heat exchange efficiency, you get a percentage of how much of the total available temperature difference (...

I want to make a note on ducting: make sure that air flow is properly directed, or the effect will be greatly diminished. Recently I've testet two ducted setups, with very different results. 1. Bluefront inspired. - CPU ducted to PSU w 120 mm fan - free blowing graphics fan 80 mm - two 120 mm filter...

From what I gather, most of the tower/heatpipe sinks of modern day outperform the 7000 noisewise, check the recommended section.

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BTW, I happened upon one of those things in the shop the other day - man , those sinks ar HUGE, and heavy.

For a really small case, this could be it: http://aspireusa.net/images/products/X-QPACK-BK-0_250.jpg Aspire X-Qpack , but it would require some serious modding, and maybe it's too glary to begin with. I think it has a proprietary PSU as well, bad for you. You would have to turn the motherboard tray ...

I have the exact same card, using a Titan heatsink with fan removed, but an 80 mm case fan as intake on the bottom of the case, rihgt below the heatsink. I use "AtiTool" for overclocking the card while gaming. You could use the same tool to check for stability in your setup, since you can't read out...

Problem is, as Yangster is saying, the more duct surface you add, the more pressure drop you get. This is why you get better temps in a mid-tower than in an m-atx case. What happens if the duct is about the same length as the case, the positive effect on noise of cooling with cooler air, i.e. needin...

The AC 7 is cheap, maybe it has the same fan problem as the AC 4 (which bust on me after a month...) Are you planning on going passive w the 6600? Maybe just an in-line resistor is enought (search for Zalman RC65). Better to have fans in the back than on top/sides, no direct noise path to ear. Here ...

Since you're taking case air in both setups, the 120 fan pushing through the heatsink has less impedance (back pressure?) and will give suffivient cooling. You're right about the amount of air being large, thus getting heated less, I've measured 42 deg coming from a 58 deg HS. Ducting usually hamper...

Ok jasonb885, some answers to your post (way) above: Any thoughts on stuff like this mentioned in this thread? http://www.quietpc.com/uk/caseacc.php#afeet Or would that be too weak and gimmicky? On the contrary, they might even be too sturdy. As per the posting above, suspending the case in helium b...

Has anyone seen any specs for MB's where it says it needs air flow to cool NB/MOSFETs/DIMMs? The only figure I've ever seen is for ambient to be +/-0 to +50 deg C. My take on this is that if you have enough air flow to maintain those ambient temps, these parts cool more or less passively (or rather ...

Retake on sound problems two rooms away: 1. Is it vibrations transmitting through the case feet? 2. Is it vibrations resonating the case causing narrow-band noise (case material's natural frequency) transmitting through the walls? 3. Or is it fan noise transmitting through the walls? As stated above...