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by Felger Carbon
Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:31 pm
Forum: System Advice / Troubleshooting
Topic: Cooling dilemma
Replies: 11
Views: 4684

How much space is there between the Freezer 64 and the drive cages? I've seen people in these forums suspending fans, with clothing elastic or bungee cords, to cool northbridges or video cards. If you did that with a fan blowing to the side of your Freezer 64, it will probably be enough. It is a lo...
by Felger Carbon
Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:34 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Sunbeam rubber fan mounts: an update
Replies: 0
Views: 957

Sunbeam rubber fan mounts: an update

I reported before about my experience with Sunbeam rubber fan mounts. They did work; the computer I'm typing on right now is the one I installed a case fan on using them. So when I placed another order with SVC recently, I got some more. The new ones don't work at all. 100% breakage. The ones that w...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:48 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Global Win ceramic bearing fans
Replies: 16
Views: 8724

Whoops! A mistake!

So does the Global Win already have corners shaped to fit the XP-120? Standard corners. No cutting. When I wrote the above a couple of weeks ago, I glanced at a GW fan that I had been testing, and the ears looked normal. I should have looked more closely. The ears are bridged, but not all the way t...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 10:20 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Taming the bright lights of fan controllers
Replies: 14
Views: 8145

Slayer of Noise wrote:I'm still wondering if anyone has had luck disabling the light completely, though.
If you're prepared to disable the LED irreversibly, first remove the power (turn off the PC?). Then take a pair of pliers and simply crush the plastic case of the LED. That will permanently disable it. :lol:
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:37 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Useful fan-related tools
Replies: 1
Views: 1259

Useful fan-related tools

I've been playing with lotsa fans and cables recently, comparing various 120mm fans. So I've been plugging and unplugging fan headers on the mobo a lot. One of these two tools ($9/pr) was very helpful. Also, when I needed to snake wires thru a 5.25" drive slot, the 11" length made it exceedingly sim...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 1:05 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Nexus voltage, rpm & mounting
Replies: 26
Views: 10224

PS. Felger, can you please tell a finn what the hell are epaulets? :lol: In the old days, when one was drummed out of a military service, all military insignias, esp. those indicating rank, were stripped from the miscreant's uniform. A military shirt has a button-down strap on each shoulder, intend...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:54 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Nexus voltage, rpm & mounting
Replies: 26
Views: 10224

Other, non-mechanical, things can conspire to upset our calculations. Here's the guts of a simple fan, http://www.mexbro.co.uk/bit/fan_guts.jpg The brown black-banded object between the red (12V) input and the Hall sensor chip is a rectifier diode, sometimes fitted so an accidental reverse power co...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 7:55 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: A new fan - Scythe S-FLEX ( fluid dynamic bearing by sony)
Replies: 50
Views: 35854

mounting the S-Flex

The S-Flex fans have "thick" ears - 0.2 inches. Standard EAR and Sunbeam rubber "screws" are incompatible with this fan. The EAR F-347 part, which allows .177 inches, might work but I don't know where you could get that specific part number. These Verax sticks might work, though.
by Felger Carbon
Wed Feb 01, 2006 12:04 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Nexus voltage, rpm & mounting
Replies: 26
Views: 10224

basicly RPM follows voltage. (desired voltage / fan's rated voltage) * fan's top RPM = RPM at desired voltage. A fan with a top speed of 1000RPM at 8V is: (8V / 12V) * 1000RPM ==> 667RPM. (Hesitating briefly before sticking leg down the lion's throat.) Alexi, I'm sorry to report that that's wrong. ...
by Felger Carbon
Tue Jan 31, 2006 4:27 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Setting your fan to precisely 1028.57RPM
Replies: 3
Views: 2194

cpemma wrote:A good way to compare the noise from those 120mm fans you reported on recently independent of speed - highlighting bearing and blade design qualities.
Yes. I added an addendum to the review today based on using this technique.
by Felger Carbon
Tue Jan 31, 2006 2:53 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Setting your fan to precisely 1028.57RPM
Replies: 3
Views: 2194

Setting your fan to precisely 1028.57RPM

When I was a kid at the movies, I always noticed how the spokes on the stagecoach would stand still or go backwards at times, especially when the indians - er, indigenous persons of the North American continent - were chasing. :) If you live where the power is 60Hz, have flourescent lighting, and ha...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:04 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: A new fan - Scythe S-FLEX ( fluid dynamic bearing by sony)
Replies: 50
Views: 35854

Last add, Scythe S-Flex: these fans are heavy! They weigh 175g, same as the Papst. Even the Yate Loons only weigh ~150g. (I'm talking about actual measurements, not the specifications.) Hang one of these babies on a Ninja and the weight ain't all in the base any more. :)
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:59 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: A new fan - Scythe S-FLEX ( fluid dynamic bearing by sony)
Replies: 50
Views: 35854

So FC, did you get those fans? How do they sound? I'm going to buy some samples if you think they're worthy. Yep, got them this afternoon. Compared them to 4 other fans including the Global Win ceramic. Posted just now under the topic "Six 120mm fans...". The low-RPM 21D looks good. The 21E makes t...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:50 pm
Forum: User Reviews
Topic: Six 120mm fans: a brief sound/noise comparison at 12V
Replies: 27
Views: 36981

Six 120mm fans: a brief sound/noise comparison at 12V

Six fans under test (rated RPM and dBA, measured grams, measured RPM at 4100ft after 15 min. warmup), price, U.S. source. The Scythe fans are the new S-Flex models. Scythe SFF21D 800RPM "8.7dBA" 175g 900RPM $15 Heatsinkfactory Scythe SFF21E 1200RPM "20.1dBA" 177g 1270RPM $15 Akasa AK183-L2B 1400RPM ...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:45 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: (probably) 754 m-atx motherboard suggestions?!
Replies: 33
Views: 16118

Staats wrote:I just built a system using the Biostar tforce...
Does this board natively boot from SATA? There's an MSI 6100 754 board that sez it can boot from SATA, and other stuff like Lan.
by Felger Carbon
Fri Jan 27, 2006 5:01 pm
Forum: Power Supplies
Topic: Seasonic Power Angel : Can It Be 'Hacked'
Replies: 2
Views: 1835

The Power Angel and the Kill A Watt are the same device in different wrappers. The 16 pin IC on the analog board is a quad op amp. The 6 leads are power, ground (and here's some informed guessing) and the 4 outputs of the op amps. The 4 op amps provide the "half wave rectified" signals for current a...
by Felger Carbon
Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:02 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: A new fan - Scythe S-FLEX ( fluid dynamic bearing by sony)
Replies: 50
Views: 35854

Does anyone has one? I expect to receive my 800 and 1200RPM units this afternoon or Monday. Heatsinkfactory now shows 10ea 1600RPM units in stock, and now they have 35ea 800 and 1200 models. While there's nearly a glut :) of 1200RPM quiet fans, 1600RPM units are hard to find. I like the option of r...
by Felger Carbon
Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:02 am
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Scythe SCNJ-1000 Ninja heatsink
Replies: 179
Views: 179543

Re: ninja on µATX mb ?

Could someone measure the distance the ninja goes beyond it's k8 retention module ? You can measure the distance. The Ninja is 110mm by 110mm. It sits symmetrically on the CPU no matter wich way it's mounted. True, the thumb-levers protrude slightly past that limit, but they're pretty high up. So g...
by Felger Carbon
Thu Jan 26, 2006 7:42 am
Forum: CPUs and Motherboards
Topic: Desktop Athlon 64 and Sempron Processor Info
Replies: 8
Views: 5280

Re: Desktop Athlon 64 and Sempron Processor Info

Matt wrote:Socket 940 Athon FX

Any updates or corrections would be appreciated.
Newegg seems to think the FX53 is a socket 939. Are there any socket 940 FXs?

Hey, nice table. Lotsa work. v1 always has a coupla bugs. :?
by Felger Carbon
Wed Jan 25, 2006 3:10 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: A new fan - Scythe S-FLEX ( fluid dynamic bearing by sony)
Replies: 50
Views: 35854

These fans are wildly popular - NOT! As soon as I read about sites showing inventory, I went looking. Only one site, Heatsinkfactory, was showing parts in stock. They had 10 each of the 120mm 800RPM and 1200RPM models only. I immediately ordered one of each to try them out. About midnite, I received...
by Felger Carbon
Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:28 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Noctua / Coolink Tower Heatsinks
Replies: 34
Views: 32413

80mm Coolink/Akasa/Noiseblocker seem to be the one and the same fan and made by YS tech. 120mm Coolink/Akasa/Noiseblocker seem to be the same fan, a wild guess it could be YS tech. Shame! They can't possibly be the same fan. They have different color blades! Coolink is green, Akasa is amber, Noiseb...
by Felger Carbon
Tue Jan 24, 2006 5:39 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: 120x25 fan clips for XP-120 & SI-120
Replies: 7
Views: 2965

Re: 120x25 fan clips for XP-120 & SI-120

JVM wrote:Thanks Felger :wink: Do you know if it also fits the SI-120?
No idea. Sorry.
by Felger Carbon
Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:23 pm
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: 120x25 fan clips for XP-120 & SI-120
Replies: 7
Views: 2965

Re: 120x25 fan clips for XP-120 & SI-120

JVM wrote:Anyone know where in the USA I can purchase these 120x25 fan clips for a Thermalright XP-120 or SI-120?

Top flange fan wire clips (120mm x 120mm x 25mm fans )
For XP-120 series
here.
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:20 pm
Forum: Cases and Damping
Topic: Simple, cheap CAG noise reduction
Replies: 10
Views: 4787

For those sober-sided individuals who must have the computer case on their right side, I suggest a case such as the Centurian 541, which has the CAG holes on the right (as opposed to left) side panel. Skoal! :wink:
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 23, 2006 11:01 pm
Forum: SPCR Article Discussion
Topic: Noctua / Coolink Tower Heatsinks
Replies: 34
Views: 32413

Has anyone tried bending something like the Ninja so that the pipes are at least diagonally oriented? Seems like this would be agood design for the next rendition... Rather than bend the Ninja, it's simpler to just lay the computer on its side so the Ninja is upright. I haven't done this with my Ni...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 23, 2006 10:32 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Sunbeam rubber fan mounts work, no tools required. Honest!
Replies: 7
Views: 4175

There's no denying that the Sunbeams have more of a tendency to break than the EAR/Acousti's. It's a fact. That said, I approached them as an experiment/learning experience. I tried different mounting procedures and I tried with tools and with just fingers. I expected breakage. One of the things I w...
by Felger Carbon
Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:14 pm
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Sunbeam rubber fan mounts work, no tools required. Honest!
Replies: 7
Views: 4175

Sunbeam rubber fan mounts work, no tools required. Honest!

Right now I have Sunbeam rubber fan mounts on the 120mm exhaust fan in my #1 computer, sitting to the left of my 19" LCD monitor. I mounted them today, and it's good thing they come in a package of 16 because I busted some as part of an experiment/learning exercise. The point is, I mounted these in ...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:28 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Papst 4412FGLL fan question
Replies: 48
Views: 20785

Re: Papst 4412FGLL fan question

Has anyone used the Papst 4412FGLL fan? According to the specs on the various retailers who carry it, the airflow is 40CFM, the speed is 1,200 RPM, and the noise level is 18 dBA. On the Papst website I cannot find this specific model, but there is another one (4412FGL - one less 'L' on the end) tha...
by Felger Carbon
Sun Jan 22, 2006 2:55 am
Forum: Fans and Control
Topic: Rubber Fan Screws
Replies: 15
Views: 7455

Either return them or throw them away. I went through 2 bags of them and 90% of them broke. I tried soap and other lubricants... it didn't help, they still ripped apart. Buy these, they actually work: http://www.siliconacoustics.com/fanisolators1.html Yep! I managed to get a case fan installed yest...
by Felger Carbon
Sat Jan 21, 2006 8:26 am
Forum: CPU Cooling
Topic: Shortest fanless heatsinks?
Replies: 27
Views: 11991

Re: Shortest fanless heatsinks?

winguy wrote:
Felger Carbon wrote:in anticipation of the NCU-3000
Any pics/info of this?
None that I know of yet. If you google "Scythe NCU-3000", you'll see that the scant information available comes from the EU.