Zalman TNN 300

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Zalman TNN 300

Post by shigaloo » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:28 pm

hexus has a brief report on this new case



http://www.hexus.net/content/reviews/re ... 9JRD0xMDM1

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Post by sthayashi » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:51 pm

Looks a little similar to the NEPS 400 that never came out.

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Post by shigaloo » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:02 pm

looks like it uses the same psu concept except it is attached to the side of the case

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Post by Mats » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:48 pm

so big and still µAtX.
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Post by Rusty075 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:54 pm

Mats wrote:so big and still µAtX.
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Its not much bigger than a standard mid-tower case. Hexus' pics and descriptions really don't do the thing justice. Just wait till more of the internal spec's become public.

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Post by Mats » Fri Mar 11, 2005 3:45 pm

Russ:I think you missed my point. But that's because I didn't explain myself. I would very much like to use a µATX mobo, the only reason why not is because it's so hard to find one that have what you need. With that size I think they could manage a ATX mobo with some arrangements, (even in worst case: the extra slots on an ATX mobo blocked by some internal unit (yes, very hard to know exactly which kind of slots this design would block (from a Zalman point of view) in this PCI/PCIE world. Still, the user would always have more choices with this solution including µATX)

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Post by Rusty075 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:53 pm

If you made it big enough to fit an ATX board....

you'd have the TNN500.

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Post by Mats » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:42 pm

Rusty075 wrote:If you made it big enough to fit an ATX board....

you'd have the TNN500.
Well TNN500 is much more than 60 mm higher, isn't it?

BTW, about making the TNN300 HTPC friendly with remote control, I think there's one included with the TNN500AF as well. No amp card though!

Edit: It's really short! Makes it ok with the height then.

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Post by carrot » Fri Mar 11, 2005 8:51 pm

You guys think the TNN 300 will be a lot cheaper than the TNN 500? Cause the TNN 500 is like 1200-1400$ CAN on ncix.com (by a lot cheaper i mean closer to the 400-500$ range)

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Post by Mats » Fri Mar 11, 2005 9:56 pm

No, not a lot cheaper IMO. In this situation, size doesn't matter much. Sheet metal and extruded aluminium is very inexpensive to buy, but manufacturing of the case (milling, welding, drilling, cutting, assembling, painting...) cost a lot more. So even if the case is smaller there is still about the same number of steps necessary to make the product. Of course, size and weight matters when distributing. To this you add a non standard (huh?) fanless PSU (very small series model =EXPENSIVE), that digital amp card and remote controller.

Another thing, compare the situation by looking at Antec Aria and Sonata. Two cases totally different in size but aimed at the same market. And cost almost the same (at least here in Sweden). It's not like paying for a bag of rice instead of two, you pay for one solution. :wink:

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Post by shigaloo » Sat Mar 12, 2005 3:28 pm

think about what zalman is giving you:

passive cool psu
passive cool cpu
passive cool gpu

isolated hd

someother junk you probably dont want

from the pix, a very thick aluminum vented chassis

its gonna be pricey, the question is will they be able to sell enough to to bring the price down and even if they do will they drop the price? Looking at the reserator i would tend to doubt it.

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Post by Slaugh » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:06 pm

From BeHardware:
For the CPU, Zalman shouldn’t be able to dissipate more than 70 Watts. Consequently, this configuration won’t be able to welcome high end Pentium 4.
Looks nice, but expensive and only suitable for HTPC IMHO...

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Post by Tibors » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:42 pm

70Watt is enough for (even a dual core) A64. So that makes a powerfull system possible. Not just a HTPC.

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Post by sgtpokey » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:13 pm

I want to like this case. But I think it's giving a lot of "almost..." features.

If you wanted an expensive fanless HTPC you could look at a Hush ATX.

If you wanted a quiet gaming rig, then you have size, price, and a thermal limit to contend with.

If you wanted a cool smallish form factor, then it contends with the Shuttles and that are smaller or the silverstone mini-atx cases...

If you used it as a file server (for some crazy reason), I *think* it only has two hard drive mounts (I'm guessing that you can screw another Zalman hard drive cage underneath the one in the picture).

It DOES give you more more flexibity in component choices than the equivalent Hush, and it can be potentially a very powerful and silent computer.

So the choice is good, and it's still a cool engineering design!

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