Press release for new Antec P150 case.

Enclosures and acoustic damping to help quiet them.

Moderators: NeilBlanchard, Ralf Hutter, sthayashi, Devonavar

|Romeo|
Posts: 191
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:36 pm
Location: UK

Post by |Romeo| » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:04 am

Ralf Hutter wrote:Good Christ! Poor Antec. Apparently there is nothing they can do to ever make the "perfect case".

:rolleyes:

If I was Mr. Antec, I think I'd torch the entire building and retire to live in Monaco. :)
I can see why retire to Monaco, but why torch the building? You have people bitching about "faults" in one of your products that you have "corrected" in another. Why torch the building, surely this means you have something for everyone (and with the P150s drive sleds, I'm down to 2 1/2 grumble points -no mounting holes for laptop drives, no backplane option and still harder to remove than Sonata ones, but less bad than the P180 ones and with the airflow advantage that that gave us. Maybe when Antec get to the P050... :lol:

stromgald
Posts: 887
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:45 pm
Location: California, US

Post by stromgald » Thu Oct 06, 2005 11:18 am

|Romeo| wrote:Maybe when Antec get to the P050...
Hmmm, would that be a minitower or SFF? A SFF that cools like a P150? That would be awesome! :D . Antec just keeps upping the bar, and we keep demanding more, until we get to the impossible . . . like a silent SFF system out of the box, or is it really impossible? :D

Aleksi
Friend of SPCR
Posts: 889
Joined: Sun Dec 05, 2004 11:34 pm
Location: Finland -- Folding For SPCR

Post by Aleksi » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:08 pm

What am I not getting...:?

A few pictures from the outside, no proper pictures from the inside and a short description.

Yep, that's enough info to pass judgement. :roll:

stromgald
Posts: 887
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:45 pm
Location: California, US

Post by stromgald » Thu Oct 06, 2005 12:19 pm

Well we know 1) its going to have Antec's new line of modular PSUs with higher efficiency, 2) its going to have hdd suspension as an option on the system (no modding required), 3) sound deadening panels like the P180, and 4) there are 'integrated cable organizers' for easier cablegami.

I'd say it looks very good on paper. :wink:

NARC
Posts: 42
Joined: Thu Apr 22, 2004 2:07 pm
Location: Baltimore, MD, USA
Contact:

Post by NARC » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:11 pm

Wow, that is quite a package.

I could really care less how it looks personally. This is the first case I've debated paying retail price for...

gg Antec

nici
Posts: 3011
Joined: Thu Dec 16, 2004 8:49 am
Location: Suomi Finland Perkele

Post by nici » Thu Oct 06, 2005 2:59 pm

Im not bashing it, it looks very functional, and the new PSUs seem very good, im just saying i dont like the looks. But as i said earlier, i dont like the looks of any case except the TJ03, so im going to make my own case. I´ve already destroyed two cheap cases, thats a start :lol:

mathias
Posts: 2057
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:58 pm
Location: Toronto
Contact:

Post by mathias » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:02 pm

Ralf Hutter wrote:Good Christ! Poor Antec. Apparently there is nothing they can do to ever make the "perfect case".
That is absolutely ludicrous. "Poor Antec, so many of those mean SPCR members find their Sonata's inadequate and throw them out like yesterday's trash when the 3700 comes out, and then they do the same to their 3700's when the P180 comes out. How soon will they repeat this cruelty to their P180's?!?"

It's probably better for Antec to not make the perfect case. It's other manufacturers' fault for not breathing down their necks enough to force them to.
Ralf Hutter wrote:I'm pretty darn sure that if Antec had included a PSU in the P180, folks would have bitched about that for some reason. "It's not powerful enough". "It's too powerful. I don't need that much power and don't want to pay the extra money for it". It doesn't have enough _______ connectors, I need more". :)
How did they ever avoid this problem with the 3700/3000/3800?

Sorry, I just can't help bitching. In regards to the PSU, it doesn't really make sense for me to care about it anyway, I don't think I'll even consider getting this case, it looks much too cramped.

Putting those two things together: Antec is pulling a Sonata with this case. And the 3700 is more popular here.
Aleksi wrote:A few pictures from the outside, no proper pictures from the inside and a short description.
And dimensions. What's Antec gonna do to make this different from a Sonata, make it function like a bag of holding?

"Micro ATX on the outside, full tower on the inside. Only available by fighting your way through 6 floors of monsters to the bottom of Antec Dungeon." Anyone interested?

|Romeo|
Posts: 191
Joined: Tue Jan 18, 2005 6:36 pm
Location: UK

Post by |Romeo| » Thu Oct 06, 2005 3:46 pm

mathias wrote: "Micro ATX on the outside, full tower on the inside.
Are you taking notes AntecRep? I suggest it should look like This



(I'm sorry, I just couldn't resist)

stromgald
Posts: 887
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:45 pm
Location: California, US

Post by stromgald » Thu Oct 06, 2005 8:14 pm

LOL Romeo, couldn't resist posting that eh?

Some of us happen to like microATX outside, and full ATX inside. Much easier to carry under one arm, and you stil have enough expansion slots for all the slots on your mobo.

moritz
Posts: 167
Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2005 7:06 am
Location: Germany
Contact:

Post by moritz » Fri Oct 07, 2005 1:44 am

If Antec can't make a case of that size easy to work with, they're doing something wrong. The Lian Li PC60 series is a bit smaller (in height, at least), full ATX, and a breeze to install just about anything in. And I don't see the point in buying a bigger case if I only ever use 2 HDs and maybe 2 expansion cards.

notareal
Posts: 67
Joined: Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:03 am
Location: Finland

Post by notareal » Fri Oct 07, 2005 4:14 am

P150 looks really good, hope it will be available black or black/silver like p180. PSU duck should be easy to make to that nice NeoHE PSU. Perhaps a totally flush front would have given a better look, but that a matter of taste. Can't wait to see it reviewed here.

Twill
Posts: 34
Joined: Sun Apr 20, 2003 4:05 pm

Post by Twill » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:46 am

so, for a not-so-up-on-it silencer, what are the main differences between the 150/160/180?

Obviously the look and placement of some of the things are different but performance wise, are there any comparissons of the 160/180 and speculation against the 150?

Thanks

Twill

AntecRep
-- Vendor --
Posts: 184
Joined: Tue Jan 21, 2003 7:15 am
Contact:

Post by AntecRep » Fri Oct 07, 2005 6:48 am

Finally got the inside and rear view pictures up.

Not sure if they're helpful enough though.

kloppe
Posts: 61
Joined: Sun Mar 21, 2004 6:51 am
Location: Sweden

Post by kloppe » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:06 am

AntecRep wrote:Finally got the inside and rear view pictures up.

Not sure if they're helpful enough though.
So that "advanced cable management" system, is that the hole in the motherboard tray? :)

StarfishChris
Posts: 968
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Location: Bristol, UK
Contact:

Post by StarfishChris » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:19 am

Ralf Hutter wrote:Good Christ! Poor Antec. Apparently there is nothing they can do to ever make the "perfect case".
I blame the silencers. If they can't get their acts together and have the same opinions, they don't deserve the perfect case. ;)

Personally I think it's great, though I prefer the design and look of the P180. The cost would be the deciding factor for me...

MikeC
Site Admin
Posts: 12285
Joined: Sun Aug 11, 2002 3:26 pm
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Contact:

Post by MikeC » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:35 am

MSRP: $180 w/NeoHE430

I think the PSU by itself will retail for $110.

lucienrau
Posts: 197
Joined: Thu Mar 27, 2003 4:22 pm
Location: Boston, MA

Post by lucienrau » Fri Oct 07, 2005 7:42 am

Ouch. I was kicking myself for already having built my new system when this case showed up. With a price like that, I'm not kicking anymore. :?

mathias
Posts: 2057
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2004 3:58 pm
Location: Toronto
Contact:

Post by mathias » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:00 am

moritz wrote:And I don't see the point in buying a bigger case if I only ever use 2 HDs and maybe 2 expansion cards.
But they're not sacrificing expension slots. If microATX was the de facto standard, then cases of this size would be completely different than they are now, they'd have hell of a lot of room between the CPU heathsink and power supply, but since these cases are built for ATX mboards, they have little room there.

stromgald
Posts: 887
Joined: Wed Jun 09, 2004 12:45 pm
Location: California, US

Post by stromgald » Fri Oct 07, 2005 9:25 am

I doubt it'll be $180. On froogle, you can find a Neo HE 430W for about $75. That plus the cost of a P180 at newegg totals to $180. The P150 should be cheaper than the P180, and a Case + PSU combo, is usually cheaper than buying them separately. $180 might be the MSRP, but I think a P150 will be down to about $140-$150 on newegg, after its been out for a month or two.

Shadowknight
Posts: 1283
Joined: Thu Aug 07, 2003 2:43 pm
Location: Charlotte, NC, USA

Post by Shadowknight » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:26 am

I wonder if the "sound-deadening polycarbonate side and top panels" will be more or less effective than the al/plastic/al setup in the P180?

Sooty
Posts: 625
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:15 am
Location: UK

Post by Sooty » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:34 am

What are the front fan options? There appear to be twin fan grilles on the filter holder.

sun.moon
Posts: 174
Joined: Wed Sep 21, 2005 5:57 am
Location: Germany

Post by sun.moon » Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:47 am

My opinion?

Quit the speculating, worring and bitching. Just look forward to an objective SPCR review, and then deal with the results.

You can't please all the people all the time. But you can please some of the people some of the time. Antec has never failed at that. I believe they have certainly pleased enough people until now.

Tastes, needs, desires, demands and wishes are all subjective and differ among everyone anyways.

OmegaZero
Posts: 218
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:39 am
Location: Portland, OR, USA

Post by OmegaZero » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:10 am

Sooty wrote:What are the front fan options? There appear to be twin fan grilles on the filter holder.
I want this one answered as well. Any chance those are both 120s? How awesome that would be...

Sooty
Posts: 625
Joined: Mon Sep 22, 2003 5:15 am
Location: UK

Post by Sooty » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:49 am

OmegaZero wrote:
Sooty wrote:What are the front fan options? There appear to be twin fan grilles on the filter holder.
I want this one answered as well. Any chance those are both 120s? How awesome that would be...
Well the case height is 430mm, of which the lower drive cage looks no more than 50% of that = 215mm. So I very much doubt they’re twin 120’s = 240mm :wink:

OmegaZero
Posts: 218
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:39 am
Location: Portland, OR, USA

Post by OmegaZero » Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:55 am

Eh well. Doesn't hurt to wish...

Still looks like it might be an awesome case though.

~El~Jefe~
Friend of SPCR
Posts: 2887
Joined: Mon Feb 28, 2005 4:21 pm
Location: New York City zzzz
Contact:

Post by ~El~Jefe~ » Fri Oct 07, 2005 8:21 pm

er well ive looked at 3 pictures from the inside....

looks darn normal and decent. I will buy this in a heartbeat. Great new system/linux box. I'll say it again what I did in the psu forum, the 150 looks a lot nicer to me than the 180.

cases that are huge dont appeal to someone who has 1 vid card, 1 silent hd, 1 combo dvd burner silent drive, etc. plus, this psu seems sick. and, so far, antec has been accurate about their psu efficiencies. I think they know MikeC is going to be testing them. I am not joking!

the 18 decibels is a bit hard to swallow though. However, it might be at 1 meter inside the case it is in without components being turned on.

id guess 23 db's at the low draw end. we should make a bettting pool on these things. set up a chart with boxes.

Ralf Hutter
SPCR Reviewer
Posts: 8636
Joined: Sat Nov 23, 2002 6:33 am
Location: Sunny SoCal

Post by Ralf Hutter » Sat Oct 08, 2005 6:02 am

Sooty wrote:What are the front fan options? There appear to be twin fan grilles on the filter holder.
2 x 92mm.

natethegreat
Posts: 86
Joined: Fri Feb 25, 2005 8:05 am
Location: Minnesota

Post by natethegreat » Sat Oct 08, 2005 8:33 pm

A link to this pic on anandtech: Click Here

OmegaZero
Posts: 218
Joined: Fri Jan 07, 2005 11:39 am
Location: Portland, OR, USA

Post by OmegaZero » Sat Oct 08, 2005 9:43 pm

natethegreat wrote:A link to this pic on anandtech: Click Here
Can you link the rest of that thread? Is it a review or a user's build?

I am SO excited about this case... <drool>

sthayashi
*Lifetime Patron*
Posts: 3214
Joined: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:06 am
Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Post by sthayashi » Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:05 pm

OmegaZero wrote:
natethegreat wrote:A link to this pic on anandtech: Click Here
Can you link the rest of that thread? Is it a review or a user's build?

I am SO excited about this case... <drool>
Judging from the URL, it's an unofficial SPCR sneak preview. :-)

Post Reply