I can see why retire to Monaco, but why torch the building? You have people bitching about "faults" in one of your products that you have "corrected" in another. Why torch the building, surely this means you have something for everyone (and with the P150s drive sleds, I'm down to 2 1/2 grumble points -no mounting holes for laptop drives, no backplane option and still harder to remove than Sonata ones, but less bad than the P180 ones and with the airflow advantage that that gave us. Maybe when Antec get to the P050...Ralf Hutter wrote:Good Christ! Poor Antec. Apparently there is nothing they can do to ever make the "perfect case".
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If I was Mr. Antec, I think I'd torch the entire building and retire to live in Monaco.
Press release for new Antec P150 case.
Moderators: NeilBlanchard, Ralf Hutter, sthayashi, Devonavar
Hmmm, would that be a minitower or SFF? A SFF that cools like a P150? That would be awesome! . Antec just keeps upping the bar, and we keep demanding more, until we get to the impossible . . . like a silent SFF system out of the box, or is it really impossible?|Romeo| wrote:Maybe when Antec get to the P050...
Well we know 1) its going to have Antec's new line of modular PSUs with higher efficiency, 2) its going to have hdd suspension as an option on the system (no modding required), 3) sound deadening panels like the P180, and 4) there are 'integrated cable organizers' for easier cablegami.
I'd say it looks very good on paper.
I'd say it looks very good on paper.
That is absolutely ludicrous. "Poor Antec, so many of those mean SPCR members find their Sonata's inadequate and throw them out like yesterday's trash when the 3700 comes out, and then they do the same to their 3700's when the P180 comes out. How soon will they repeat this cruelty to their P180's?!?"Ralf Hutter wrote:Good Christ! Poor Antec. Apparently there is nothing they can do to ever make the "perfect case".
It's probably better for Antec to not make the perfect case. It's other manufacturers' fault for not breathing down their necks enough to force them to.
How did they ever avoid this problem with the 3700/3000/3800?Ralf Hutter wrote:I'm pretty darn sure that if Antec had included a PSU in the P180, folks would have bitched about that for some reason. "It's not powerful enough". "It's too powerful. I don't need that much power and don't want to pay the extra money for it". It doesn't have enough _______ connectors, I need more".
Sorry, I just can't help bitching. In regards to the PSU, it doesn't really make sense for me to care about it anyway, I don't think I'll even consider getting this case, it looks much too cramped.
Putting those two things together: Antec is pulling a Sonata with this case. And the 3700 is more popular here.
And dimensions. What's Antec gonna do to make this different from a Sonata, make it function like a bag of holding?Aleksi wrote:A few pictures from the outside, no proper pictures from the inside and a short description.
"Micro ATX on the outside, full tower on the inside. Only available by fighting your way through 6 floors of monsters to the bottom of Antec Dungeon." Anyone interested?
If Antec can't make a case of that size easy to work with, they're doing something wrong. The Lian Li PC60 series is a bit smaller (in height, at least), full ATX, and a breeze to install just about anything in. And I don't see the point in buying a bigger case if I only ever use 2 HDs and maybe 2 expansion cards.
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I blame the silencers. If they can't get their acts together and have the same opinions, they don't deserve the perfect case.Ralf Hutter wrote:Good Christ! Poor Antec. Apparently there is nothing they can do to ever make the "perfect case".
Personally I think it's great, though I prefer the design and look of the P180. The cost would be the deciding factor for me...
But they're not sacrificing expension slots. If microATX was the de facto standard, then cases of this size would be completely different than they are now, they'd have hell of a lot of room between the CPU heathsink and power supply, but since these cases are built for ATX mboards, they have little room there.moritz wrote:And I don't see the point in buying a bigger case if I only ever use 2 HDs and maybe 2 expansion cards.
I doubt it'll be $180. On froogle, you can find a Neo HE 430W for about $75. That plus the cost of a P180 at newegg totals to $180. The P150 should be cheaper than the P180, and a Case + PSU combo, is usually cheaper than buying them separately. $180 might be the MSRP, but I think a P150 will be down to about $140-$150 on newegg, after its been out for a month or two.
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My opinion?
Quit the speculating, worring and bitching. Just look forward to an objective SPCR review, and then deal with the results.
You can't please all the people all the time. But you can please some of the people some of the time. Antec has never failed at that. I believe they have certainly pleased enough people until now.
Tastes, needs, desires, demands and wishes are all subjective and differ among everyone anyways.
Quit the speculating, worring and bitching. Just look forward to an objective SPCR review, and then deal with the results.
You can't please all the people all the time. But you can please some of the people some of the time. Antec has never failed at that. I believe they have certainly pleased enough people until now.
Tastes, needs, desires, demands and wishes are all subjective and differ among everyone anyways.
Well the case height is 430mm, of which the lower drive cage looks no more than 50% of that = 215mm. So I very much doubt they’re twin 120’s = 240mmOmegaZero wrote:I want this one answered as well. Any chance those are both 120s? How awesome that would be...Sooty wrote:What are the front fan options? There appear to be twin fan grilles on the filter holder.
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er well ive looked at 3 pictures from the inside....
looks darn normal and decent. I will buy this in a heartbeat. Great new system/linux box. I'll say it again what I did in the psu forum, the 150 looks a lot nicer to me than the 180.
cases that are huge dont appeal to someone who has 1 vid card, 1 silent hd, 1 combo dvd burner silent drive, etc. plus, this psu seems sick. and, so far, antec has been accurate about their psu efficiencies. I think they know MikeC is going to be testing them. I am not joking!
the 18 decibels is a bit hard to swallow though. However, it might be at 1 meter inside the case it is in without components being turned on.
id guess 23 db's at the low draw end. we should make a bettting pool on these things. set up a chart with boxes.
looks darn normal and decent. I will buy this in a heartbeat. Great new system/linux box. I'll say it again what I did in the psu forum, the 150 looks a lot nicer to me than the 180.
cases that are huge dont appeal to someone who has 1 vid card, 1 silent hd, 1 combo dvd burner silent drive, etc. plus, this psu seems sick. and, so far, antec has been accurate about their psu efficiencies. I think they know MikeC is going to be testing them. I am not joking!
the 18 decibels is a bit hard to swallow though. However, it might be at 1 meter inside the case it is in without components being turned on.
id guess 23 db's at the low draw end. we should make a bettting pool on these things. set up a chart with boxes.
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A link to this pic on anandtech: Click Here
Can you link the rest of that thread? Is it a review or a user's build?natethegreat wrote:A link to this pic on anandtech: Click Here
I am SO excited about this case... <drool>
Judging from the URL, it's an unofficial SPCR sneak preview.OmegaZero wrote:Can you link the rest of that thread? Is it a review or a user's build?natethegreat wrote:A link to this pic on anandtech: Click Here
I am SO excited about this case... <drool>