8800 GTS vs. HD 2900 pro

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8800 GTS vs. HD 2900 pro

Post by thejamppa » Fri Sep 28, 2007 9:25 am

I am looking replacement for my 7900gs Sli system. I want to upgrade faster single card system

I could get some 8800 GTS cards ( 320 mb GDDR3 320 bit ) from 279 to 309 €'s while HD 2900pro ( 512mb GDDR3 512bit ) is 250 to 290 €'s

So when looking price and memory HD2900 pro seems to be a winner but in real time tests? Opinions, suggestions?

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Post by Alex » Fri Sep 28, 2007 12:15 pm

Wait until January Nvidia G92 (dec this year?) or try to get a cheap HD2900 Pro. I don't think you will regret to wait. Maybe ATI/AMD will release a HD2950 also during Q1 2008?

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Post by thejamppa » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:11 am

Oh, I just read about finnish site that 8800 GTS will be replaced by 8800 GT And nVidia G92 chipset would be released in end of november. early december..

Ati HD 2950 pro should be released October / November, which would make good candidate ^^

Too bad I don't know when Ati RV670 will be released or not even its specs.

So much choices, so little money :P

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Post by Matija » Sat Sep 29, 2007 1:06 am

The cards perform roughly the same.

However, the 8800 GTS draws less power and has better/quiter cooling.

You should wait for a couple more months... The situation can only get better for the consumers, and it's not like there's an "OMG I need to have this!" DX10-exclusive game out there.

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Post by thejamppa » Sat Sep 29, 2007 4:16 am

true... true... Perhaps in january... Then all new chips should have come and pricess drop again. I should also wait for more manufacturers bring their HD2900 pro's and new HD 2950 pro's. And read how they will go up against 8800-series. Its also intresting to see what 8800 GT has to offer.

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Re: 8800 GTS vs. HD 2900 pro

Post by AndeeG » Mon Oct 01, 2007 4:09 pm

thejamppa wrote:I am looking replacement for my 7900gs Sli system. I want to upgrade faster single card system

I could get some 8800 GTS cards ( 320 mb GDDR3 320 bit ) from 279 to 309 €'s while HD 2900pro ( 512mb GDDR3 512bit ) is 250 to 290 €'s

So when looking price and memory HD2900 pro seems to be a winner but in real time tests? Opinions, suggestions?
You might want to check out this article from Tom's Hardware. Apparently they like the HD 2900Pro more than the 320mb 8800gts. With some mild overclocking, it can perform identically to the 2900xt. However, they're also convinced that the card won't be around for long.

As for heat and power usage, I have no idea which one is better, which could end up turning the tables.[/url]

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Post by Teema » Tue Oct 02, 2007 1:46 am

If you can afford to wait a bit (until Nov 19th), I think the ATI HD 2950PRO might be worth it.

http://vr-zone.com/articles/Radeon_HD_2 ... /5307.html


It's basically a HD 2900XT with scaled down memory bus, some new tweaks (Direct X 10.1), and most importantly, a significantly reduced size (on 55nm process instead of 80nm of the current generation).

My only concern is that this *might* be a 256mb card which I hope it isn't the case.


Anyway, I'm waiting for the card myself.

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Post by Matija » Tue Oct 02, 2007 3:14 am

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... ks-defined

Prototype board with RV670XT markings, that was leaked by several vendors sported a TDP of 132 Watts, and had GPU clocked all the way to 825 MHz, with GDDR4 memory working at 1.2 GHz (2.4 GT/s), while RV670 Pro prototype came with GPU clocked at 750 MHz, and GDDR3 memory was working at 900 MHz (1.8 GT/s). This board has TDP of around 104W.

Looks nice... But knowing ATI, the cooling will be horrible, and 104W isn't something you can easily silence.

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Post by rpsgc » Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:26 am

I'm on the same boat as you (chosing between 8800GTS and HD2900PRO) and although I would love to buy the HD2900PRO and have the XT performance at a fraction of the cost, on the other hand it has a higher power consumption, operating temperature and a NOISY cooler.

But unlike you I can't really afford to wait that far, I have to sell my current rig and it's now or never :/ sucks...

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Post by Teema » Tue Oct 02, 2007 8:01 am

Matija wrote:http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... ks-defined

Prototype board with RV670XT markings, that was leaked by several vendors sported a TDP of 132 Watts, and had GPU clocked all the way to 825 MHz, with GDDR4 memory working at 1.2 GHz (2.4 GT/s), while RV670 Pro prototype came with GPU clocked at 750 MHz, and GDDR3 memory was working at 900 MHz (1.8 GT/s). This board has TDP of around 104W.

Looks nice... But knowing ATI, the cooling will be horrible, and 104W isn't something you can easily silence.
On a (much) brighter side, 104w is much better than the 200+w the HD 2900XT drinks up.

Pictures of some MSI test cards show that the RV670 256mb card is actually single-slot!


According to DigiTimes (which I trust), RV670 comes with 256 or 512mb (yay!) versions, so I'm definitely waiting for it.

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Post by Matija » Tue Oct 02, 2007 10:30 am

Yeah, single-slot, all those 104W getting trapped inside the case :)

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Post by Teema » Tue Oct 02, 2007 11:59 pm

Matija wrote:Yeah, single-slot, all those 104W getting trapped inside the case :)
And exactly what is wrong with that?

With a good case, moving "all those 104w" could be done much more silently. There's nothing worse than a dual-slot jet engine card that can single handedly kill all of your silencing efforts.


"All those 104W" for comparable HD2900XT performance. I'd say "finally"!

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Post by Matija » Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:32 am

Sure, but if someone made a triple-slot cooling solution, with a large, slow fan, which would exhaust air out... I don't think it would be that bad.

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