I think I'm buying one of these to replace my 7770, this test says it all:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/ ... WK/25.html
She is beautifil as well
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Do you think it's pretty guaranteed that the 270X Gamer edition will be quieter? It's also 30$ cheaper which doesn't hurt...CA_Steve wrote:MSI's Gamer edition has a quieter fan profile than the Hawk.
Well the 280X also produces more heat overall.flemeister wrote:Not necessarily: TPU -- MSI R9 280X GAMING 3 GB
Here's the gaming edition of the MSI 270X (scroll down to it) it's very quiet compared to the other 270X's in the review.quickrabbit5 wrote:Well the 280X also produces more heat overall.flemeister wrote:Not necessarily: TPU -- MSI R9 280X GAMING 3 GB
I was mainly wondering whether the Gaming edition would always be quieter than respective Hawk/Lightning edition for the same GPU. At least from the example in the links I posted, it would seem so.
If it is the case with the 270X, with the HAWK already being pretty quiet overall, hopefully the Gaming edition would be pretty close to SPCR standards.
davemuk wrote:The gaming edition R9 270X fits in the Antec Solo if anyone is interested. There's roughly a 2-3mm gap from then end of the card to drive cage.
The defeault 18% fan speed under windows is very quiet and only gets louder between 25-30% with the side case open. Wth the case closed the heat built up (in my case) and pushed the fan speed closer to 35% which is still pretty quiet with no noticable annoying whine (I'm comparing this to a HD4850 with accelero S1 + 900rpm Nexus 12cm fan). GPU temps rose to low 80's (I think 99 is the max). I think a bigger case or a case with better airflow, temps would be lower keeping the fan speed between 25-30%. * used Furmark for the stress test.
For an out of the box gfx card it did an excellent job considering it only takes two slots up. My HD4850 + accelero + Nexus takes 4.
Just to confirm you were able to get the below 260mm card in the original Antec Solo!?davemuk wrote:The gaming edition R9 270X fits in the Antec Solo if anyone is interested. There's roughly a 2-3mm gap from then end of the card to drive cage.
First off: Where are you getting a GTX 670 with a respectable, silent, cooler for $270? I know the ASUS coolers, as reviewed by SPCR are up to snuff, but they're 323$ on amazon while a MSI R9 270X is 200$ on Newegg. It's a completely different price segment.laststop wrote:If your budget will allow I think you will be happier with the MSI Twin Frozr IV GTX 670. It is 270 instead of 230 for the MSI Hawk r9 270x but you also get assassins creed black flag and splinter cell blacklist with the gtx 670. If you look at it this way, MSI hawk r9 270x (230) + Assassins creed black flag on steam (60) + splinter cell blacklist on steam (60) = 350 dollars vs GTX 670 (270) and both games FREE the 270x ends up being 80 dollars more expensive if you look at it from this angle.
The GTX 670 is only a tiny stones throw away from the performance of the gtx 680/gtx 770. It basically sits in between the gtx 760, which it is more powerful than, and the gtx 770, which it is very close to performance in. Basically a maximum overclocked gtx 670 can equal the performance of a stock clocked gtx680/gtx 770 and even exceed it in some cases. It's a very good price/performance ratio card. The GTX 670 consistently outperforms the r9 270x to varying degrees. Sometimes the difference is only 4 or 5 fps but other times it's 20-30 fps (or even more) faster but at every single game used as a comparison the gtx 670 was always the winner by some margin even the most radeon optimized game the 270x still loses to the gtx 670.
Even with the higher performance of the GTX 670 power usage is virtually identical. Some situations the gtx 670 uses more and some the 270x uses more, it's basically a wash. Same thing with the temps as well. Since both cards use a similar twin frozr setup with similar fans they are both quiet cards. Since nvidia is just able to offer better performance with more efficient use of its power you get more fps and higher performance without a power or noise penalty.
It's all win win win from every perspective. Higher FPS and greater performance while keeping the power and noise practically identical to the 270x. And while the card may be 40 dollars more you get 120 dollars worth of games for free the latest and greatest Assassins creed IV and Splinter cell. I feel it's a no brainer. Just skip taking the wife/gf out for dinner one day and grill some burgers at home or skip going to the bar for sunday night football and buy a 6 pack and watch at home or something and you just saved the 40 dollars needed to get a much nicer gpu and you score 2 brand new triple a games in the process as well. And while this may be controversial in my opinion nvidia hardware is more reliable and better built than radeon hardware. As well as the drivers wrote by nvidia are more stable and just better all around and cause less problems than radeon drivers. And last but not least if you haven't looked up this new feature on the horizon called G sync it is going to be game changing (no pun intended). It will sync your monitors refresh rate in real time to the fps output of your card. This means the annoyance of screen tearing is FINALLY gone without having to take the performance penalty and other downsides of Vsync. You will need a new monitor with the gsync chip installed in it but it is totally worth it, nvidias demo of the tech was mind blowing and made games look so butter smooth even with fps's in the mid 30's
I hope I successfully made my case to you. I'm positive that extra 40 cash will be well worth it. And I'm not sure how the free games are distributed but you may even be able to sell off your download codes for the 2 games on ebay. Since the games are selling for 60 on steam if you put them up for 40 each they would sell in no time so now you only pay 190, 40 dollars cheaper and better in every way. I don't see how you can still choose the 270x over the gtx 670 after hearing all these facts.
Good luck with your purchase, I know you will do the right thing.
Sorry for the late reply - Yes it was in the original Antec SOLO case.roadie wrote:Just to confirm you were able to get the below 260mm card in the original Antec Solo!?davemuk wrote:The gaming edition R9 270X fits in the Antec Solo if anyone is interested. There's roughly a 2-3mm gap from then end of the card to drive cage.
http://www.msi.com/product/vga/R9-270X- ... cification
Techno Pride wrote:How is the card during idle?
If you're refering to the Gaming edition I would say it's very quiet at idle, unless your room is an anechoic chamber you won't notice it imo.quest_for_silence wrote:Techno Pride wrote:How is the card during idle?
I would say quiet, but FAR from being silent: at which distance do you sit from the PC?
davemuk wrote:If you're refering to the Gaming edition I would say it's very quiet at idle, unless your room is an anechoic chamber you won't notice it imo.
I doubt anything but passive would be audible if the PC was that close. Your case will also make a difference. In a fractal design 4 it was not audible at idle with the case on the floor (again I'm refering to the gaming edition and not the hawk).quest_for_silence wrote:davemuk wrote:If you're refering to the Gaming edition I would say it's very quiet at idle, unless your room is an anechoic chamber you won't notice it imo.
It depends.
If you have your mid-tower in front of your nose, like I have, you will notice it, easily, while you can't notice a passive card (like the one he's used to have).
Definitely the PC placement does matter, this is why I asked for.
Techno Pride wrote:The Solo II is on the floor.
When I said "idle", I actually mean watching blu-ray and movie files as well. Noticed that the HD7750 did increase the clock speed during videos, although there was no fan to ramp up. Not sure whether the 270x behaves the same way.
Techno Pride wrote:quest_for_silence: You have the 270x Gaming?
Yes the MSI 270X gaming fits in the Antec Solo 1 with suspended drives, pictures to prove it are in this very thread.quest_for_silence wrote:Techno Pride wrote:The Solo II is on the floor.
When I said "idle", I actually mean watching blu-ray and movie files as well. Noticed that the HD7750 did increase the clock speed during videos, although there was no fan to ramp up. Not sure whether the 270x behaves the same way.
Yes, more or less it behaves same way.
Techno Pride wrote:quest_for_silence: You have the 270x Gaming?
I've tested it against an ASUS GTX 660 DC II Top for a couple of days, then I returned it to the legitimate owner (my brother, who paid that card the same money I've spent less than two years ago for the 660).
The case was the Antec Solo I placed under a desk, into which that card barely fits (if you have drives suspended, I bet it won't fit): long story short, I haven't noticed it to be any faster, while it draw a bit more power than the ASUS, and noise-wise I've perceived it to be more or less the same, in my opinion the MSI being slightly more noticeable at idle, while my brother felt a draw out between the two cards (I felt to perceive it over the Antec Signature 650 idle noise, while he didn't).
We've also tested it in a smaller NSK3480 sitting side-by-side the monitor, and at idle it was at least as noticeable as a MSI GTX 650Ti PE: not obtrusive at all, but well perceived over a fanless card (take note that in such an enclosure the card fans are far closer to the bottom panel, and the box is less sturdy than a Solo is, so it might be a resonance or a vibration).
So I said that if there isn't any straight path from your system to your hear, then more probably that not you won't notice that MSI at idle: otherwise, YMMV.
davemuk wrote:Yes the MSI 270X gaming fits in the Antec Solo 1 with suspended drives, pictures to prove it are in this very thread.
davemuk wrote:Weigh up the pros and cons of each card and go with that.