Blown motherboard after case upgrade?
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Blown motherboard after case upgrade?
Needed a new case and PSU, so got myself a P183 with the CP-850. All very nice.
Spent a few hours today moving everything over to the new case. Switched it on and itgot stuck on the POST screen. Hmmm... Reset it, started ok but the rear system fan wasn't moving. Switched off, opened it up, everything seemed ok. Tried the fan in another molex, worked ok. Tried another fan in the sys_fan slot, nothing. Hmmm... Switched on again, now nothing happens. HDs whirr a bit, then stop. Monitor says its got no signal.
Have I blown my motherboard? Or am I just a muppet? Or a muppet who's blown his motherboard?
Spent a few hours today moving everything over to the new case. Switched it on and itgot stuck on the POST screen. Hmmm... Reset it, started ok but the rear system fan wasn't moving. Switched off, opened it up, everything seemed ok. Tried the fan in another molex, worked ok. Tried another fan in the sys_fan slot, nothing. Hmmm... Switched on again, now nothing happens. HDs whirr a bit, then stop. Monitor says its got no signal.
Have I blown my motherboard? Or am I just a muppet? Or a muppet who's blown his motherboard?
Re: Blown motherboard after case upgrade?
Make sure you are not shorting the mobo by letting it touch chassis. To check if its shorting out just use the motherboard outside of box on something not conductive. If it works then you forgot to use those "spacers" in all the right places and the board is shorting out.Nik7304 wrote:Needed a new case and PSU, so got myself a P183 with the CP-850. All very nice.
Spent a few hours today moving everything over to the new case. Switched it on and itgot stuck on the POST screen. Hmmm... Reset it, started ok but the rear system fan wasn't moving. Switched off, opened it up, everything seemed ok. Tried the fan in another molex, worked ok. Tried another fan in the sys_fan slot, nothing. Hmmm... Switched on again, now nothing happens. HDs whirr a bit, then stop. Monitor says its got no signal.
Have I blown my motherboard? Or am I just a muppet? Or a muppet who's blown his motherboard?
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This typical misstake ppl make when they change cases. They just "asume" that new case has spacers in all the right places to begin with. Most of the time it's just matter of removing/ading spacer but sometimes these little misstakes kill motherboards.
Not all boards are the same nor do they have holes for screws in same places
No beep, everything plugged or unplugged.danimal wrote:do you have a speaker plugged into the motherboard, so you can hear the beeps during post?
unplug as much as you can on the motherboard, and see if it posts then... stuff like the hdd, dvd, etc.
Redzo: checked the standoffs. Had to add a couple, so they're all covered.
So looks like C: muppet who's blown his motherboard... Oh well, it's only an old mATX which was due to be replaced anyway. Will just have to do nothing until October...
dang, that case/ps is too nice to just sit unused all summer.
it may not have been anything that you did, i've seen motherboards get flakey and die like that.
just for drill... there is no speaker in the p183, so the only way that you'd hear a post code is if you plugged in a speaker that you added, or the mb had a little speaker onboard, which many mb's do not have these days.
another thing you can try doing is resetting the bios, there is a jumper on the mb for that purpose... just short it across for about 30 seconds, then put it back.
it may not have been anything that you did, i've seen motherboards get flakey and die like that.
just for drill... there is no speaker in the p183, so the only way that you'd hear a post code is if you plugged in a speaker that you added, or the mb had a little speaker onboard, which many mb's do not have these days.
another thing you can try doing is resetting the bios, there is a jumper on the mb for that purpose... just short it across for about 30 seconds, then put it back.
Thanks, it is a nice case.danimal wrote:dang, that case/ps is too nice to just sit unused all summer.
it may not have been anything that you did, i've seen motherboards get flakey and die like that.
just for drill... there is no speaker in the p183, so the only way that you'd hear a post code is if you plugged in a speaker that you added, or the mb had a little speaker onboard, which many mb's do not have these days.
another thing you can try doing is resetting the bios, there is a jumper on the mb for that purpose... just short it across for about 30 seconds, then put it back.
The mobo does have a speaker on it. Got a beep and it started, seemingly ok. Didn't have anything plugged in though. Restarted it, and again nothing. Could there be something shorting it out somewhere?
Tried resetting the BIOS as well, btw.
Edit: And now it's working again, except for the system fan. Took the back panel off. Backing up everything while it's here...
Right. Think we can leave this one now. Thanks to those who posted.
Have just done a major test, ripped everything out, had the mobo on a piece of cardboard on the floor and ran through everything. Tried using my old whiny PSU as well. Still dead as a dodo. Stuck it all back together again, just to get it out of the way more than anything. I think we can conclude this is an ex-motherboard and it's not just pining for the fjords any more.
I've had a PC for the last fifteen years, will be difficult to have to live three or four months without one (First World issues...).
Have just done a major test, ripped everything out, had the mobo on a piece of cardboard on the floor and ran through everything. Tried using my old whiny PSU as well. Still dead as a dodo. Stuck it all back together again, just to get it out of the way more than anything. I think we can conclude this is an ex-motherboard and it's not just pining for the fjords any more.
I've had a PC for the last fifteen years, will be difficult to have to live three or four months without one (First World issues...).
I'm trying, but finding a S478 AGP motherboard is proving mighty difficult. The ones I found are either PCI-E or missing something like SATA or front USB or the memory timings are wrong so I'd need new memory as well (not expensive, but just a hassle).Matija wrote:If you had enough money for a P183 and a new PSU, you have enough for a replacement (used) motherboard - I'm quite sure that getting such an old one would set you back five quid or so.
The money for the P183 and CP-850 came from selling stuff from my Star Wars collection, so I don't have money just lying around. The upgrade later this year will be financed the same way. If I don't raise enough, there's no upgrade.
Oddly enough, the PC starts occassionally now. I get maybe an hour or two out of it every day, so will have to live with that.
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odd situation...i have similar issues with my older sisters computer
if you take the motherboard out of the case, and put it on a piece of wood or cardboard, and you just wire up everything you need for it to run, such as graphics, HD, PSU, KB/M...does it start? before anything else, i'd suggest checking the capacitors, one might have blown, and if you're feeling adventurous, you could go to a local electronics store, buy a match, and replace it (my father and i have done this a few times, with LCD monitors and motherboards). it's incredibly cheap, and usually becomes a permanent fix.
if you take the motherboard out of the case, and put it on a piece of wood or cardboard, and you just wire up everything you need for it to run, such as graphics, HD, PSU, KB/M...does it start? before anything else, i'd suggest checking the capacitors, one might have blown, and if you're feeling adventurous, you could go to a local electronics store, buy a match, and replace it (my father and i have done this a few times, with LCD monitors and motherboards). it's incredibly cheap, and usually becomes a permanent fix.