Hi I want to buy me a new rig for gaming.
my budget is somewhat like 1000 to 1200$
I'm thinking of a mobo with heatpipe and 939
some single core AMD 64 like the 3700+
a vga like some nvidia 7900gt
and 1gig of ram
hdd 250gb spinpoint samsung
as case I'm thinking of the antec p150 or p180 with the psu of the p150
i dont mind which dvd
thx for any help
new rig for gaming need help im new
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What you outlined sounds pretty good.
Weakest points are processor speed, hard drive speed, and amount of memory.
Hard drive choice comes down to what you find more annoying: noise or level load times. At LAN parties I generally find the latter more annoying, so I would tend to a Hitachi T7K250 or a WD2500KS, or maybe something even bigger and/or faster at the expense of a little noise.
It would be nice to have a little more clockspeed than the A64 3700+, but a A64 3800+ is considerably more $$$. You might find a Socket 754 system with say a 2.4GHz A64 3400+ faster at gaming than the S939 A64 3700+ and save some money. Or even better a low-voltage 2.6GHz mobile A64 4000+...
But everyone wants dual channel DDR, dual core, and dual video card these days...
Or learn to overclock: get a Sempron 64 2800+ and a BIOSTAR Tforce 6100 S754 combo for about $120 total that can do 2.4GHz. Then invest the money left over to purchase your next computer.
1GB is mostly fine, but you might find the latest game latter this year really needs 2GB. Memory is fairly cheap compared to the other components and you do NOT want to run 4 sticks.
I'd also think about a sound card with acceleration. You can get a Audigy 2 Value for about $35 AR. That is basically the same as buying a the next step faster CPU for games (except the sound actually sounds better too!).
Edit: I guess you might be moving parts from the old system, and I see you have a Audigy2ZS, so you're probably covered.
Weakest points are processor speed, hard drive speed, and amount of memory.
Hard drive choice comes down to what you find more annoying: noise or level load times. At LAN parties I generally find the latter more annoying, so I would tend to a Hitachi T7K250 or a WD2500KS, or maybe something even bigger and/or faster at the expense of a little noise.
It would be nice to have a little more clockspeed than the A64 3700+, but a A64 3800+ is considerably more $$$. You might find a Socket 754 system with say a 2.4GHz A64 3400+ faster at gaming than the S939 A64 3700+ and save some money. Or even better a low-voltage 2.6GHz mobile A64 4000+...
But everyone wants dual channel DDR, dual core, and dual video card these days...
Or learn to overclock: get a Sempron 64 2800+ and a BIOSTAR Tforce 6100 S754 combo for about $120 total that can do 2.4GHz. Then invest the money left over to purchase your next computer.
1GB is mostly fine, but you might find the latest game latter this year really needs 2GB. Memory is fairly cheap compared to the other components and you do NOT want to run 4 sticks.
I'd also think about a sound card with acceleration. You can get a Audigy 2 Value for about $35 AR. That is basically the same as buying a the next step faster CPU for games (except the sound actually sounds better too!).
Edit: I guess you might be moving parts from the old system, and I see you have a Audigy2ZS, so you're probably covered.
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Re: new rig for gaming need help im new
Sounds like you know what you want already.
Add Ninja HSF and Acoustical treatment (rubber /foam).
Add Ninja HSF and Acoustical treatment (rubber /foam).
No, but there are motherboards without heatpipes and without fans. I don't see why any motherboard would need a heatpipe, unless they are bad designs and run too hot. They might be a little benefitial for quiet overclocking.Pierce wrote:it like it to be silent or are there mobos with fans that are quiet aswell
Really CPU's and GPU's are the only things that are going to benefit much from heatpipes, and then only the >50W ones (which is most of them now-a-days.)
I think motherboard heatpipes are the new bling. It used to be chipset fans. The dirty secret was chipsets have never needed fans, but people thought they were good. So nearly every pretentious board had them for a while. Now it is heatpipes--just say no.
I've even bought a few boards that didn't even have heatsinks on their southbridge or northbridge and they worked just fine!
What I look for is just a nice big, open aluminum heatsink for northbridge cooling, and maybe some small aluminum heatsink for the southbridge if any.
BTW: ATi's new RD580 is very cool and very fast. It certainly doesn't need any heatpipes.
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How about the BIOSTAR Tforce 6100 S939?Pierce wrote:the new rd 580 sounds good but it migh be a little too expensive
got to buy all this stuff in Europe because i havent found a shop in the USA or Canada shipping to Germany
i get to the Gigabyte GA-K8N SLI everytime looking around but i heard something about it being quite hot??
Cool, silent, cheap, small, and reliable.
Definitely just as fast as any other nForce4 motherboard.
Micro ATX means you can put it in a smaller/lighter case.
Biggest drawback is lack of Gigabit ethernet, which you may or may not want.
I like my S754 version, but there are a lot more options in S939 boards.
As has been mentioned, seriously consider a Shuttle XPC or clone for a gaming rig. They can be made reasonably quiet and can't be beat for size/weight and gaming capability.
I believe the 7900GT would be just fine in a XPC. It is actually fairly cool for a high-end video card.Pierce wrote:dont know with the shuttle wouldnt that be a problem with the 7900gt being quite big and hot
Yes, very nice, but might be overkill for this system.i just read the p150 review and think i will stick with that one
A micro ATX motherboard lets you use a smaller case. There are several threads about good micro ATX cases. I have a cheap In-Win Z720T. Antec suppossedly has some new micro ATX cases coming. The best currently might be the Cooler Master Centurion 541--a nice upside down arrangement case. The Ever Case ECE3505 looks pretty nice too. And there are the cube like cases like the Antec Aria, Silverstone SST-SG01 and the Aspire X-QPACK.
Scythe Ninja SCNJ-1000. Very big, but fairly light.what cpu cooler is your suggestion as it shouldnt be too heavy.
Thermalright SI-120 or XP-120. both lighter and almost as good as the Ninja. Not quite as good for passive cooling.
Various other heatpipe tower heatsinks are good.
You can probably get by with a Thermalright XP-90 even.
Case choice wil determine whether or not some of these will fit. Though I made the Ninja fit just fine in my In-Win (after taking a hammer to the side of the case.)