Slighlty worrying 3dMark2001SE results...

Piri · Post by **Piri** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:16 am

Hi peeps

I've just built my new C2D Rig, and having a few performance issues...

Specs;

Core 2 Duo E6300 @ 1.86GHz
775Dual-Vsta
DDR400 Dual Channel 1GB 3,4,4,8 Timing
WD1600JS 160GB 7200RPM SATA150
Maxtor DiamondMAX Plus 9 7200RPM 80GB PATA
Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Forceware 93.81 (i think...latest)
WIN XP Pro 32Bit
VIA Hyperian Pro Latest
Realtek HD Audio Latest...
Dual Core Patch from Microsoft v4

PNY Geforce 6600 128MB GDDR 64Bit AGP
Overclocked from-300Mhz Core, 500Mhz Mem to 425 Core, 625 Mem (No artifacts)

...Scores 6678 Points in 3DMark 2001 SE....a bit crap?

Plus i've notcied, when i maximise/minimise WinXP, it laggs, and takes some time to minimize, with this white streak slowly being moved downwards...

It seems slower than my old Athlon XP that I upgraded from :'(

Somebody please help

Jarrett · Post by **Jarrett** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:41 am

AGP? 64bit?

Well the reason is your video card - you need a much better one. A 7600GT like the new passive XFX or Sparkle look pretty impressive. I am putting the XFX in my system once I buy the parts.

http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/ ... 48&CatId=0

Noiseless and the best performing 7600GT card

PPGMD · Post by **PPGMD** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 9:52 am

3DMark is a test of your video card, the 6600 is a good video card, but it's not a great one. My A64 3700, with 2 GB of cheap RAM, and a 6800GT tops out at about 10-11k on the 2001 version.

I am waiting for the P182 to come out and I will put together, my quietish (aka not quiet but more quiet then the average gaming machine) 8800GTX gaming machine.

Edit: Oh yeah to upgrade above the 6 series you are likely going to have to swap out the motherboard too. Also can someone tell the companies that market products to gamers, we don't care about Fatal1ty, you don't need to pay to plaster his name on every product.

Post by **CA_Steve** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:31 am

how does it compare vs similar systems in ORB? That's the true test....then compare vs better vid cards and see the performance improvement.

jaganath · Post by **jaganath** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 10:39 am

Plus i've notcied, when i maximise/minimise WinXP, it laggs, and takes some time to minimize, with this white streak slowly being moved downwards...

Even if the vid card is no 8800GTX, this should not be happening surely...suggests some other problem. In Control Panel, do any of the devices have an exclamation mark next to them? How does the C2D work with DDR RAM? Maybe the timings have to be set differently?

Piri · Post by **Piri** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:10 am

Thanks for the prompt reply peeps

I have another issue if anyone is willing to help...the system is so unpredictably unstable, with no overclocking whatsoever, the mobo randomly freezes up and I have to reset the computer to make it work again :'(...some people have had this problem, whereas other's havent...help?...

>as for the bios settings, there i've tried setting the timing manually to that reccomended by cpu-z, 3,4,4,8 and yet it still freezes up.
> i've noticed some random settings to, "IDE strength" and "memory flexibility option"...what are they?...is this what causes instability on my comp (p.s. temps are cool at 36deg idle )

...as for XP64, will it work with most, in fact all, 32-bit applications smoothly?

Minimizing and Maximizing, still slow, and it takes 2-3 seconds, with the window slowly pushing downwards...this never happened when i used the SAME GPU on my old athlon xp and msi k7n2-delta2..., nor a geforce fx5200 on another comp, or a Intel GMA graphics (how embarrasing)

>Anyone here own a 775dual-vsta, can they tell me any reccomended settings for the bios that keep the board rock stable (excuse the pun)

Piri · Post by **Piri** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:18 am

Also, no exclamation mark in device manager

SebRad · Post by **SebRad** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:14 pm

Hi, something is definitely wrong. The window resizing issue is not right at all. All video cards since the beginning of 3D era (like 16MB and less ones) have plenty of 2D power. Also I would expect at least twice as much 3D mark score. Unless you have some weird hardware compatibility issue I would look at software solutions. Uninstall (from add/remove programs) any graphics drivers relating to the 6600 or any previous cards. Download / run "Driver cleaner", to be sure you're rid of everything. Reboot then reinstall the latest (or recent) NVidia drivers and see if any better. Heard the other day about a machine under performing due to too many shared IRQs, could be worth checking. Go in to device manager (run "devmgmt.msc") and view -> resources by type. In my system only shared IRQ is 22 between the onboard USB and NIC.
Seb
PS I got 5400 3D Mark 2001 (std settings) from Nvidia 6150 intergrated gfx! My XP3200+ & Radeon 9600pro gets 12,000+

Piri · Post by **Piri** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 12:25 pm

nope...geforce6600 not shared with anything, gets irq 16 all by itself...

ps...irq21 is shared by 3xUSB controller and SATA...will this be the reason why i get random freezes? [/img]

spookmineer · Post by **spookmineer** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:20 pm

Both the results from Piri and PPGMD seem to be a bit low.

With an XP3200+ and FX5950Ultra I get 13185 in 3DMark2001SE.
This is an old benchmark program, the 2005 or 2006 version should be more "fair" to test a newer generation card.

There might be BIOS or Win settings that cause the card not to work at its best performance. I had the same problem when I first installed my card (long time ago) but using google I could find a lot of forum threads on how to solve/improve things.

Although 3DMark are synthetic benchmarks and don't necessarily reflect how in-game performance is, it's useful to check if your card is functioning like it should (as most reviews use these benchmarks).

PPGMD · Post by **PPGMD** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 4:30 pm

The MCE drivers that I used at the time that I did the benchmark sucked, so that might be why the score is so low.

The newest version is much more stable and faster, but I don't have 3dmark on my system anymore. That and the system is sort of in pieces anymore as I am working on replacing it with a modern system.

Piri · Post by **Piri** » Wed Jan 17, 2007 11:49 pm

PPGMD wrote:The MCE drivers that I used at the time that I did the benchmark sucked, so that might be why the score is so low.

The newest version is much more stable and faster, but I don't have 3dmark on my system anymore. That and the system is sort of in pieces anymore as I am working on replacing it with a modern system.

I don't run MCE...

Also, i've sorted the stability issue by manually setting the mem speed to 3,4,4,8, flex off, dual channel...

Tested out a new setting, AGP delay speed(?), set it from 1ns to disabled...now i get 12000 points...better, but still quite bad?

will try pcmark06 and 3dmark 05 and will post back...

cheers dude(ttes)