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Post by Edward Ng » Fri May 27, 2005 7:44 pm

pony-tail wrote:
EDIT: Bleh, what the heck...just ordered a Venice 3000+ to go with it.

EDIT2: Damn I'm out of control today; ordered a fanless dual-DVI PCI-Ex 6600 card from XFX, too.
Nice "fix" for a hardcore hardware junkie :lol:
"And how..."

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Post by KorruptioN » Sun May 29, 2005 5:46 am

One thing I don't like about most Abit boards is that they have the floppy connector in the worst place. I don't know if I'll be using a floppy in the future, but c'mon!
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Post by Viperoni » Sun May 29, 2005 7:37 pm

rpsgc wrote:
Viperoni wrote:I WANT TO BUY THIS BOARD NOW!!! lol :lol:
No problem.
http://forums.silentpcreview.com/viewtopic.php?t=22387
I'm in Canada, Newegg doesn't ship up here :(
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Post by cold c » Mon May 30, 2005 2:14 pm

I don't know if this has been mentioned already, but ASUS have now created their own version of this NB heatpipe design.

ASUS news page on the new NB heatpipe

inquirer pic of the ASUS A8N-SLI PREMIUM with the NB heatpipe

direct link to pic

It is a bit difficult to be certain from the pics but the ASUS pipe design looks to run flatter (closer) to the motherboard, but the heatsink is further inside the case.

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Post by rpsgc » Mon May 30, 2005 2:20 pm

Yummy, competition :D

Yes it runs "lower", touching the board near the CPU so it doesn't interfere with large Heatsinks, but it has no direct exhaust like the ABIT board :?
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Post by Edward Ng » Sun Jun 05, 2005 8:03 am

EDIT: Moved the info on my AN8-SLI build to here, and posted plenty of pics.

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Post by pony-tail » Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:15 pm

I already bought an Asus A8n-sli doh!
I wonder if that is anything like buying a Ford Edsel ?(an unpopular American car of the 50s for you yunguns out there)
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Post by Edward Ng » Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:59 pm

Detail data relevant to SPCR:

BIOS Voltage Controls are as such:

CPU Core: 1.40-1.75V (no underclocking for my Venice, 1.40 stock :cry:)
DDR Slot: 2.50-3.55V
DDT VTT: 1.25-1.75V or DDR/2
nForce4: 1.50-1.80V
HyperTransport: 1.20-1.35V
DDR Memory Reference: -100 to +100, in 10s
CPU Memory Reference: -100 to +100, in 10s

I have no clue wtf the last two are for.



ABIT EQ Panel:

ABIT EQ Beep Control: Enabled or Disabled.


Temperature Monitoring ->
-Reading (Enable/Disable for CPU, Sys and PWM)
-Shutdown (Enable/Disable for CPU, Sys and PWM)
-Shutdown Temp. (80-95C for CPU*, 66-80C for Sys and 81-110C for PWM)
-Warning Beep (Enable/Disable for CPU, Sys and PWM)
-Beep Temp. (65-79C for CPU, 50-65C for Sys and 70-80C for PWM)

* Curiously enough, if the Beep Temp for CPU is set for 75C, you can suddenly set the CPU Shutdown Temp as low as 76C


Fan Speed Monitoring ->
-Reading (Enable/Disable for CPU, NF4, SYS, OTES1, OTES2 and AUX)
-Shutdown (at 0rpm; Enable/Disable for CPU, NF4, SYS, OTES1, OTES2 and AUX)
-Warning Beep (Enable/Disable for CPU, NF4, SYS, OTES1, OTES2 and AUX)
-Beep Limit (600-3000rpm for CPU, NF4, SYS, OTES1, OTES2 and AUX)


Fan EQ1 ->

-CPU FanEQ (Enable/Disable)
--Ref (CPU is the only choice)
--High Temp (41-75C)
--Low Temp (25-64C)
--Fan High (8.5-12V)
--Fan Low (8.0-11.5V)

-NF4 FanEQ (Enable/Disable)
--Ref (CPU, SYS or PWM, your choice)
--High Temp (31-75C)
--Low Temp (25-39C)
--Fan High (8.5-12V)
--Fan Low (8.0-11.5V)

-SYS FanEQ (Enable/Disable)
--Ref (CPU, SYS or PWM, your choice)
--High Temp (31-75C)
--Low Temp (25-39C)
--Fan High (8.5-12V)
--Fan Low (8.0-11.5V)



Fan EQ2 ->

-OTES1 FanEQ (Enable/Disable)
--Ref (CPU is the only choice)
--High Temp (41-75C)
--Low Temp (25-49C)
--Fan High (6.5-12V)
--Fan Low (6.0-11.5V)

-OTES2 FanEQ (Enable/Disable)
--Ref (CPU is the only choice)
--High Temp (41-75C)
--Low Temp (25-49C)
--Fan High (6.5-12V)
--Fan Low (6.0-11.5V)

-AUX FanEQ (Enable/Disable)
--Ref (CPU, SYS or PWM, your choice)
--High Temp (31-75C)
--Low Temp (25-39C)
--Fan High (8.5-12V)
--Fan Low (8.0-11.5V)


I have not yet gotten to test to see if CrystalCPUID works on this board or not; I will report later on when I get a chance to try it out.

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Post by Edward Ng » Tue Jun 07, 2005 6:11 pm

And btw, the fan, voltage and temp. stuff is fully configurable and monitorable from Windows, too; here's the control panel for ABIT EQ:

Image

The only thing you can't control is what the voltage for the fans are at Low and at High. That's left for the BIOS.

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Post by NeilBlanchard » Wed Jun 08, 2005 3:54 am

Hello Ed:

I sure hope that Crystal CPUID works to undervolt the CPU -- and it should be able to if C'NQ works?
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Post by Edward Ng » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:05 pm

EDIT:

Okay, must've been my settings from my NewCastle that made it freeze; I downloaded the newest version of CrystalCPUID and put it in a new folder and works fine now. CPUBurn K7 at full 9.0*200 and 1.1V the CPU doesn't even go over 55C.

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Post by Edward Ng » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:44 pm

Updated power chart comparing CnQ to CrystalCPUID:

Image

CrystalCPUID is set to idle at 5.0*200 at 0.9V, middle speed 7.0*200 at 0.95V and maximum speed 9.0*200 at 1.0V. When I tried 4.0*200 at 0.8V, it froze my system. Note, however, that the tray icon always reports 1.10V, no matter the current load or multiplier.

RTHDRIBL is run with default settings with the window manually resized to 1024x768 in 32-bit mode; nVIDIA DualView is always active.

The most important thing to know, however, is that with CnQ, CPUBurn was pushing my CPU past 70C; with CrystalCPUID, I'm not even breaking 60C.

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Post by ronrem » Fri Jun 10, 2005 2:07 am

While Abit suggests the CPUfan should provide airflow,that would work well in some setups...not too well in others. A ducted fan can always be mounted in a casing on the rear to draw exhaust out this route,or this radiator could be an inlet,especially in cases where a cpu fan blows heat from the cpu toward a side/door vent. Some CPU coolers,especially the tall heatpipe towers,have fans that do aim to the rear.

At any rate,the concept is great,I hope other Mobo makers offer variations. This requires thinking through the airflow plan,but I can see several ways it should work,unless a real limiting case is an issue...but thats why guys have power tools.

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Post by ronrem » Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:35 am

There is a new Zalman,the 9500,which aims the fan sideways,just as it should be for this mobo's heatpipe radiator. Nice looking heatsink. Anand has pics in the Computex review-sorry I don't have the direct link. I hope a non-SLI version comes out,ideal would have a dedicated pci slot for a high end soundcard,like the ECS KN-1.

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Post by silencetowrite » Wed Jun 15, 2005 5:12 pm

The AN8 Ultra seems to be in stock here:

http://www.atacom.com/program/print_htm ... SER_ID=www

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Post by winguy » Wed Jun 15, 2005 9:06 pm

Does the AN8 Ultra have the same bios options as AN8 SLi (as posted by Edward Ng above)?

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Post by silencetowrite » Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:01 pm

as far as I know yes...

i think these are uguru features....

http://www.abit-usa.com/innovations/uguru.php

I could be wrong.

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Post by adala » Wed Jun 15, 2005 11:15 pm

I bet pretty soon the third-party cooling vendors will start to make heatpiped HS for chipsets........ think mini xp120....

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Post by OldnCheap » Mon Jun 20, 2005 3:40 pm

Edward Ng wrote: CPU Core: 1.40-1.75V (no underclocking for my Venice, 1.40 stock :cry:)
Thanks for the great info - unfortunately I'm new at this and don't understand all the details. Am I correct to say you can't underclock the A8N from the bios, but you can do it in Windows with ABIT EQ (VCORE of 1.14V) or CrystalCPUID? Thanks

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Post by Edward Ng » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:06 pm

I could not underclock my Venice from the BIOS, that is correct--whether this is the case with all cores I do not know.

ABIT EQ doesn't control voltages for the CPU, OC Guru does, but its selection of voltages is the same as the BIOS, which means neither the BIOS nor ABIT's software allows undervolting.

To undervolt, you must use CrystalCPUID; even with CrystalCPUID, the floor is 1.1V, not 0.8V as I wished it would be.

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Post by OldnCheap » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:29 pm

Ed, Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize Abit EQ was reading the voltage set by CrystalCPUID. I think I'm gonna get a 3000 Venice with the AN8 V2 (whenever that comes out)

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Post by Edward Ng » Mon Jun 20, 2005 4:34 pm

Yep; right this moment I'm looking at 1.12V according to ABIT EQ. When I run CPUBurn, voltage rises to 1.14V in ABIT EQ, even though CrystalCPUID is still set for 1.10. Who knows how accurate this reading is, though...

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Post by shortbean » Sun Jun 26, 2005 10:24 am

The AN8-Ultra is very hard to find. NOT AN8 FATAL1TY!!!! Newegg, tiger, zip, directron didn't have it. Pricegrabber, froogle, copernic don't know it either. Took me about 5 hours of searching. $136 at ATACOM to bad in state Sales Tax.

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Post by Edward Ng » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:15 pm

Is that 2.0 as in 1.0 was non-heatpipe, or is that 2.0 as in a second version of the heatpipe cooled board?
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Post by winguy » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:20 pm

Edward Ng wrote:Is that 2.0 as in 1.0 was non-heatpipe, or is that 2.0 as in a second version of the heatpipe cooled board?
1.0 was non-heatpiped.

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Post by Edward Ng » Sun Jun 26, 2005 5:41 pm

Okay, cool... :lol:

I was concerned if they released a 2.0 with heatpipes so quickly, and I had a 1.0, what's wrong with it that they had to make such a major revision so quickly!
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Post by shortbean » Mon Jun 27, 2005 12:08 am

Beware the Zip page does not say that it is a AN8 Ultra it's only a version 2 as silencetowrite points out... meaning your getting the nForce4 chip and not the nForce4 ULTRA chip.

"The main difference between the Nforce Ultra and the regular one is SATA II support. What this does is give an available bandwidth limit increase and native command queing."

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Post by silencetowrite » Tue Jun 28, 2005 1:58 pm

some nice pics of the AN8 Ultra and AN8 SLI:


http://www.vr-zone.com.sg/?i=2353&s=1

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