220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
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Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
Have received the Energenie Power Meter from UK. It's actually has the inside of Klusu's device!
And the pcb too! So it is yet another ADE7755 device )
«Schuko» adopted version with extension cord clued to )
And the pcb too! So it is yet another ADE7755 device )
«Schuko» adopted version with extension cord clued to )
Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
The last digit (after the decimal point) is not to be trusted.
I connected a 62kΩ resistor and paralel 68nF capacitor. Got 1.2W 45% PF (should be 0.8W).
Then I added paralel 217k and got less power - 1.0W 45%. Which means something is wrong in the digital domain. Perhaps one digit of the ADC is dead (by design?).
Some more results:
An old (paper) 10μF - 2.3W 0%
A 1μF capacitor (any) 0.8W 0%
Resistor 29kΩ - 2.3W 89% (should be 1.7W)
Resistor 40kΩ - 1.7W 44% (should be 1.25W and, of course, 100%)
Resistor 48kΩ - 0W, the threshold reached.
I connected a 62kΩ resistor and paralel 68nF capacitor. Got 1.2W 45% PF (should be 0.8W).
Then I added paralel 217k and got less power - 1.0W 45%. Which means something is wrong in the digital domain. Perhaps one digit of the ADC is dead (by design?).
Some more results:
An old (paper) 10μF - 2.3W 0%
A 1μF capacitor (any) 0.8W 0%
Resistor 29kΩ - 2.3W 89% (should be 1.7W)
Resistor 40kΩ - 1.7W 44% (should be 1.25W and, of course, 100%)
Resistor 48kΩ - 0W, the threshold reached.
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Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
Klusu wrote:PM230 should be avoided, apparently.
Can you explain more, please?
Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
"The measuring range is from 5 to 3500 Watt, the meter measures in 10 mA steps, which at 230 V corresponds to 2.3 Watt (at Ohmic load).
When the load is below 5 Watt, the meter indicates "zero"."
My meter is better. Seems to be defective, still better.
When the load is below 5 Watt, the meter indicates "zero"."
My meter is better. Seems to be defective, still better.
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Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
I am looking at getting a power meter to measure the power consumption of my computer.
Maplins seem to sell this one:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/plug-in-electri ... tor-223573
There are also these meters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-ENER0 ... 957&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brennenstuhl-Wa ... 57&sr=1-19
http://www.maplin.co.uk/energy-monitoring-socket-266236
http://www.maplin.co.uk/plug-in-mains-p ... itor-38343
A few of these have been mentioned before. Is the Energenie Power Meter a better choice than the Brennenstuhl EM230 or the Prodigit meter mentioned in the first post?? The Energenie Power Meter is the cheapest one too.
Maplins seem to sell this one:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/plug-in-electri ... tor-223573
There are also these meters:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Energenie-ENER0 ... 957&sr=1-2
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Brennenstuhl-Wa ... 57&sr=1-19
http://www.maplin.co.uk/energy-monitoring-socket-266236
http://www.maplin.co.uk/plug-in-mains-p ... itor-38343
A few of these have been mentioned before. Is the Energenie Power Meter a better choice than the Brennenstuhl EM230 or the Prodigit meter mentioned in the first post?? The Energenie Power Meter is the cheapest one too.
Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
Two budget energy meters which seem to be reasonably accurate:
CRESTA - RCE-1106
http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/14165/te ... uiksmeters (dutch)
10 euro (Kijkshop, Gamma)
Profitec KD 302
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f5 ... 52567.html (german)
14 euro (Redcoon)
CRESTA - RCE-1106
http://nl.hardware.info/nieuws/14165/te ... uiksmeters (dutch)
10 euro (Kijkshop, Gamma)
Profitec KD 302
http://www.hardwareluxx.de/community/f5 ... 52567.html (german)
14 euro (Redcoon)
Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
Can't resist necro'ing this thread...
There's a product in Australia that works on 220-240V range - "Watts Clever", distributed by http://www.steplight.com.au. $30 ea
I'm using it at the moment, and it measures the power factor as well. That said, I haven't attempted to measure it against a calibrated load...
In the past, I've used one I got from Jaycar... I think it was about $20 that went down the drain in 48 hours.
This one seems to be holding up well (early days yet though)
There's a product in Australia that works on 220-240V range - "Watts Clever", distributed by http://www.steplight.com.au. $30 ea
I'm using it at the moment, and it measures the power factor as well. That said, I haven't attempted to measure it against a calibrated load...
In the past, I've used one I got from Jaycar... I think it was about $20 that went down the drain in 48 hours.
This one seems to be holding up well (early days yet though)
Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
Most (all?) UK models seem to be battery powered. I'm wondering why that is because Japanese and US meters are not, and it seems obvious to use the mains power. My guess is that it is safety related. I am tempted to try attaching a plug-in PSU in place of the batteries in one of mine to see what happens.
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Re: 220V alternative to Kill-a-Watt Power Energy Meter
Hello guys. I discovered suddenly that meters under Energenie brand are made actually by ...Gembird Electronics Ltd. Not so noble manufacturer to be honest, but issues pretty usable quality. I still have no reason to blame my meter. Found my ENER007 and more recent one meter on youtube, maybe will be useful for someone.
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Did anyone see EnerGenie Energy Meter LAN in the flesh? Looks very interesting
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Did anyone see EnerGenie Energy Meter LAN in the flesh? Looks very interesting