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Owen1978
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Same usual question

Post by Owen1978 » Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:07 am

What i need...

Quiet drive
80GB
SATA

What i dont need...

High pitched whine!

I previously had SS P80 (jvc motor) and it had an annoying whine, been reading through the forums, i know the nidec motor is better but does it have a high pitched whine?

I dont mind to0 much of the occasional noisy seek, my maxtor is diamondmax 9 has very noisy seeks, but when idle its quiet.

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Post by xilencer » Mon Aug 28, 2006 1:45 am

I wouldn't put any money on SpinPoints. Just have a listen to the .mp3 recordings here at SPCR, both JVC and Nidec samples have high pitched whine. You need a Smart Drive 2002 enclosure.

I recommend the new DeskStar 7K160. It's the fastest 7200rpm single platter drive on the market. As you're asking for such low capacity I guess you're looking for a single platter drive for minimum noise. If the drive emits any high pitched whine (which almost all 3.5" drives do) you can always get the SD2k2 enlosure to solve it. The only 3.5" drives I know of that don't emit high pitched whine are some of the ones which have 3 or more platters and create so much air turbulence inside that any whine gets masked by it's massive white noise. Although the sound is pretty smooth on those drives they're not really the quietest, and not the cheapest either.
By the way if you're going for the 7K160 get the 160GB model, it's a better deal than the 80GB version, SATA model number is HDS721616PLA380.

If you have the money and don't care about seeking noise I'd recommend the new Raptor, it's one of the quetest 3.5" drives ever in idle according to the SPCR review which was on the 150GB double platter version. If you only need 80GB then get the 74GB model which is quieter and more affordable, just make sure it's the new single platter version, the model number you want is WD740ADFD.

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Post by qviri » Mon Aug 28, 2006 6:24 am

xilencer wrote:The only 3.5" drives I know of that don't emit high pitched whine are
my Samsung P120 250 GB ;)

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Post by andyb » Mon Aug 28, 2006 10:04 am

Adding to qviri's remark.

My P120 200GB and my T133 400GB (the 400GB is actually quieter idle, and has lower seeks.


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Post by xilencer » Mon Aug 28, 2006 11:26 am

I'm really happy for anyone who is not plagued by high pitched whine! However, the question always remains, is there in fact no whine or is it only not heard? Keep in mind that this type of noise is usually very directional, which means you can not hear it at all in some cases, however that doesn't mean the drive isn't emitting it. I know excellent samples exists so I'm not insinuating anything. In addition to sample variance there's also lots of other variables including ambient noise level and acoustic properties, source distance, angle, position, hearing ability... Well, in short let's just say it takes one hell of a forum post to convince me :P

My P120 250GB and a friend's P120 200GB I got to test have clear high pitched whine. SPCR's 4 recordings of P80 and P120 samples all have it. Every 7200rpm 3.5" drive I have around (which is over 10 drives) are suffering from it, except for one. The most notable of the drives are the old Barracuda IV and V drives and a new Caviar SE manufactured only 4 months ago, which all are supposed to be so good. Both Barracudas are piercing but I admit the new Caviar is pretty good overall plus it's a little lower in pitch than the others but still far from acceptable to be used bare. Let me tell you something else, I recently tested a 7200.9 40GB drive thinking it would be special because it's specced at 2.0 bels idle! Overall sound power was indeed very low, but guess what? It has the high pitched whine too, real bad I might add, fortunately the disappointing test didn't cost me anything.

I have a 3.5" 5400rpm drive which I'm pretty sure won't even be considered but I'll just mention it anyway. It's a Seagate U Series X 10 which is a CE market drive extracted from an Xbox console. It's the quietest 3.5" drive I've heard in idle, and no high pitched whine, even against this background the seeks are still very quiet and soft, it has basically no vibration at all and it also runs very cool. It's extra low profile too and the height is 20mm instead of the standard 26mm. Too bad it's only 10GB, even so it's actually not much slower than a Barracuda IV! Anyway, the model number is ST310014ACE.

For capacity and performance reasons I replaced that drive with the very best 3.5" 7200rpm drive I've come across. The drive has the lowest noise level overall and there's nothing high pitched about it. The vibration is extremely low as well. The sound comes off as a nice broadband whoosh if not concentrating and focusing on hearing the borderline audible mechanical noise. AAM is permanently enabled and the seeks are discreet. It's the only replacement that I found acceptable for using bare in my Xbox (which is modded and has a silent 80mm fan). It's so good that whatever faint motor noise there might be it's so weak in volume that it gets completely blocked by the Xbox chassis, only some of the quiet white noise makes it through to the outside of the case. Also, low frequency hum is nonexistent even though it's just hard mounted in the standard plastic drive bay. The drive in question is a single platter Barracuda 7200.7 80GB PATA drive made in China, model number ST380011A.

Didn't mention this drive before because it's not commonly available anymore and it's not SATA so I guess it's off the list. It's now among the retired ones of the Recommended Hard Drives. However if PATA is OK it should still be considered, if you can find it.

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