Innovation Cooling IC Diamond 7 TIM Giveaway/Testing

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Post by Innovation Cooling » Tue Jun 02, 2009 10:38 am

[quote="psiu"]I posted and emailed on May 15th, should I have received this stuff by now?[/quote]

Mike sends them over to me when he gets 10 or so and sometimes may take a week to get enough for a mailing, a few days on my end to process + a few days in mail you should be getting it soon.

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Post by Zeroignite » Tue Jun 02, 2009 12:37 pm

Mine just got in :) .

Will test as soon as I order some new hardware.

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Post by colm » Tue Jun 02, 2009 2:00 pm

Another test, not exactly as listed, my own home computing exceeds it anyway. I added it to the northbridge, and will do so for the custom vid card cooler. I inadvertantly kept the benchmark for prime rather than the 2 hours, but prime is cooler than vid encoding anyway. the vid encode was 5 hours, unique filter, pixel for pixel, less than 1.5 minutes of 10mbit mpeg2. (it is terrible, but that is the way my machine is). The top temp was 15F less , idle temps no different. anyway, below is after the northbridge got the diamnd stuff.

specs

3.4 ghz HT
3gb dual channel ram ddr 400
reverse cooled.
idle is the same, full temp the same as earlier test. The volts dropped .1 for cpu, no discharge or abnormal to be noticed. I do not know if it will stay there, I usually get this after removing and putting back the northbridge..
I also took a look at consistency after these few days, and it is already chalkier than went in. Upon touching it was rubbery and came off cpu. Seems familiar to oem...I like better than thermalright and ceramique arctic however, that is why I chose to put it on northbridge sink. I do have two drives, and 2 roms, and the second largest card for agp ever made, so to see it hang onto below 114F is very very good (like oem). I hope this is enough for the test. I do say it is much cooler, but I needed thicker paste as my cpu has an oem dimple from another heatsink, now mated to an xp90. either way, it does its job, I continue to use it. thanks for sample.

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Post by Innovation Cooling » Thu Jun 04, 2009 2:39 pm

86 samples mailed as of last tuesday.

14 still available -get yours while they last

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Post by eternal » Thu Jun 04, 2009 5:37 pm

Recieved my syringe of thermal paste in the mail after work yesterday.

System specs:

AMD be-2350 processor on Asus M2A-VM motherboard running at 2.1Ghz
2GB ram, onboard video/audio/lan.
Thermalright Ultra 120 extreme heatsink with Yate loon D12 SL12 @ 800RPM
Noctua NF s12 exhaust fan at 1000RPM
Antec Sonata III case, 500w earthwatts power supply

Results with previous compound (Arctic silver 5):

Idle: Ambient temp 26C, Core 1 temp 26C, Core 2 temp 31C

Load: Ambient temp 26C, Core 1 temp 39C, Core 2 temp 45C

Results with IC7 compound:

Idle: Ambient temp 26C, Core 1 temp 26C, Core 2 temp 31C

Load: Ambient temp 26C, Core 1 temp 39C, Core 2 temp 44C

Edit: Thanks for the opportunity to test. I have a feeling my results would look better if my system were a little beefier.

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Post by Innovation Cooling » Thu Jun 04, 2009 8:45 pm

I am updating all forum results to date for the website, 10 forums 336 user tests. This chart is a general overview of IC Diamond results to date.

As the sample size has grown larger and as our confidence level has grown we will now have enough test results to add some some more formal statistical data- bell curve and some other stuff. Filter out some of the outliers although it does not change the numbers much it makes for a cleaner presentation.



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Post by jujuman » Fri Jun 05, 2009 1:28 pm

I agree to test

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Post by nyu3 » Fri Jun 05, 2009 10:05 pm

Got mine.
  • -Q9550 @ 3.4ghz , 1.18 vCore
    -Noctua NH-U12P with Slipstream @ 800rpm
    -Paste applied using the "dollop" method
    -Tested using LinX (Linpack frontend)
    -Temperature reported by CoreTemp
MAX temp during 5 hours:
Arctic Ceramique - 70, 70, 65, 65
Diamond 7 - 71, 71, 66, 66

I don't have ambient temps ... motherboard sensor's report of "System temp" is obviously not right.

Note: The Ceramique has been installed for a while now, so it might have the benefit of settle-in time.

I tried two installations of the Diamond 7. First time the temp was 70, 70, 65, 65 after a few minutes; so I decided to try a second time. I noticed that the paste is a lot thicker than Ceramique/Noctua NHT1/TX-2/MX-2. The Diamond 7 doesn't seem to spread to cover the entire IHS when I apply it using the dollop method, when I use the same amount of paste as Ceramique.

For the second time, I (re)-lapped both my heatsink base and CPU-IHS. I will test it one more time after 48 hours to see if temperatures improve.

edit: Tested after 48 hours, no change in temps.
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Post by Innovation Cooling » Sat Jun 06, 2009 6:53 am

Contact and Pressure http://innovationcooling.com/Indepanden ... retest.htm

Troubleshooting Point- Probably the most recommended solution by experienced forum members in all forums to a heat sink or thermal performance problem is to check the contact and lap the sink or to increase heat sink pressure.

We tested this in 5 different forums using a plastic film that measures both contact and pressure. The results aligned fairly well with with the forum thermal results where approx 80% see a result out of the gate and of the approx 20% who did not, approx 80% (Alfrado Defrado's 80/20 rule?) of those were resolved to have either inadequate Pressure and/or contact or some combination of the two. Under 50lbs pressure thermal results between compounds become kind of homogenized with only slight or no differences noted.

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Post by fgmg » Sat Jun 06, 2009 9:20 am

Received my sample

Running a Q8200 @ 3.2 Ghz
Using Thermalright HR-01 with a Sythe Slipstream 800 RPM

Idle was booting up an letting the system sit for about 30 mins to 1 hr (no applications running)
Load was running Prime95 for 2hrs.

I read the thermostat in my house to get the ambient temperature (not sure if that's what you were looking for). Ambient temperature was 80F each time I read the temperatures

Before using AS5:
idle
0: 42C
1: 41C
2: 36C
3: 39C

load:
0: 72C
1: 69C
2: 66C
3: 66C

After using ICD7
idle
0: 41C
1: 41C
2: 38C
3: 39C

load:
0: 66C
1: 66C
2: 65C
3: 64C

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Post by yaler » Sat Jun 06, 2009 1:56 pm

Received my sample, or at least I think I did! (I signed up for two of these freebie tests recently)

Will post tests as soon as I get newer hardware (and thats up to AMD, looking at tri/quad core 45/65W) ... I hope that is ok? Want to have the good stuff on ;) Test will be done on two systems.

Yale

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Post by dave2041 » Mon Jun 08, 2009 6:05 am

i agree to test on my new i7 build if you have any left <3

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Post by widowmaker » Mon Jun 08, 2009 9:19 am

First I'd like to thank Innovation Cooling (and Mike of course!) for supplying me with this sample to test. Here are my summarized results. Full raw data has been uploaded to this link:
http://rapidshare.com/files/242310535/R ... a.rar.html

Ambient: 23C
Processor: AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6400+
Heatsink: Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme

Stressed with Prime95

Results are averaged from each core and from 2 hour test periods with
temperature readings taken in 5 second intervals.

Before (Arctic Silver 5)
Idle: 29.5C
Load: 57.2C

After (ICD7)
Idle: 28.9C
Load: 56.5C

Idle delta value: 0.6C (improvement)
Load delta value: 0.7C (improvement)

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Post by ajkalan » Mon Jun 08, 2009 12:23 pm

I finally have the time to test this paste, and I'll start when my new CPU heatsink arrives in a couple of days. It'll probably be a while before I can post any test data; I'm comparing IC7 to Arctic Silver 5, which has that recommended 200 hour break-in period before it's fully ready. Hopefully everything will be done before next month. GPU results are finished, but I'll wait until everything is done before I post them.

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Post by Innovation Cooling » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:57 am

Summary of results so far, they generally smooth out when the sample size hits around 30

Please let me know if I have to make any corrections I have been known to make errors in math or also in my educated guesses - these are your numbers.

I have never deleted a number pro or con in the raw data presentations -stock pastes will often show 10 to 15 C differences so the message there is to use anything but a stock compound.

The outliers while some alone seem large but in the larger average account for only 1/300th + of the calculation, so only affect the overall average hundredth of a degree or so and they exist in both the plus and minus columns so tend to get canceled out. In small comparisons as we have here we have one that is -30C* which skew the numbers 1-2degrees. when we are around 50 sample test results the added effect of -30C would affect the final average by maybe a couple of 10th's of a degree.



At this point I leave it up to the forum here whether to include it or not after all it is your data. Any discussion/vote here would be helpful




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Post by gilmore » Tue Jun 09, 2009 10:41 am

Thanks to Innovative Cooling for the sample. Application was easy...I read some people saying it was too thick, but I just put it in my pocket to warm it up for about 15 mins before applying and it was fine.

Processor: Intel Q6600 running at 3.4Ghz (Lapped)
Heatsink: Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (Lapped)
Fan: Antec TriCool 120 (Set manually on max speed)

Load Test done after 4 hours crunching World Community Grid (all cores running same type work units). Temps read with Core Temp.

Ambient: 73F

Before (MX-2)
Idle: 37C 36C 35C 37C
Load: 56C 55C 54C 56C

After (ICD7)
Idle: 39C 38C 36C 38.5C
Load: 58C 57C 56C 57.5C

I was disappointed with the results of my test until I came home yesterday to a warm house (81F) and saw my hottest core running at 61C. With MX-2 and that ambient temperature, it normally runs loaded at 65C or 66C. I don't know why the performance swing is there, but in my book it's more important that the ICD7 improve temps on the high end...especially by 5C!! I'm happy.

Thanks again for making this available.

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Post by Innovation Cooling » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:28 am

gilmore- The cure thing I have not worked out. I test on a synthetic die and run 60 to 90 PSI and the cure is approximately 2 hrs with maybe another 1/2C overnight.

It might be that you are on the recommended borderline of 50 lbs so it may have taken longer to see results, I have had people report improvements up to a week.

With my test set up I just do not see it. Likewise if the contact pressure is low enough, say in the area of 30-40 PSI might be you would never see an improvement.

IC Diamond has had some good runs against MX-2 which is in the more competitive category of compounds. Below I have broken out the user results from 7 different forums


MX2 - 36 users from 7 forums

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Post by dave2041 » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:54 am

Itching to test this but i live in the uk :( Pretty please send me some it'll make my day :P

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Post by grimx133 » Thu Jun 11, 2009 2:11 pm

Keep checking the mail and hoping, but no joy here :-(

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Post by coweater58 » Fri Jun 12, 2009 8:38 pm

i got mine Yesterday

results

AMD FX55 San Diego
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe.
Ultra ddr400
ibm 40gb 7200 rpm
XFX 9600 gso 1 gb 96 stream with zalman
corsair vx450.

cooling
Heat Sink Noctua NH-U12 with TT silentcat on fanmate 2 fastest setting
two 80mm in back at 5v
Front 120mm at 5v
Front 92mm at 5v

used the application method provided

Load was done by running Prime 95
Temps taken with Speed fan

Room Temp was 63-65 for all test

Before
Artic Silver 5

CPU idle 31c

CPU load 57c

Now
IC7

CPU idle 34c

CPU load 53c


The load temp did go down a few deg. but the idle went up a few deg. the IC7 is pretty hard to get out of the tube and it hard to spread.

Thank you for letting me test out your product.

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Test Results :)

Post by agaver » Sun Jun 14, 2009 5:52 pm

Hi,
Thanks a lot for the opportunity to try IC Diamond 7 :)
Here it's my hardware:
Motherboard: Intel 865GLC - Bios version P25
Processor: Pentium 4 - 2.4B Ghz - Socket 478 - running at 2.39 Ghz
Memory: 1.5 Gb - DDR333
CPU cooler: Intels Stock Pentium 4 Heatsink
Hard Drives: Western Digital IDE - 120 GB / Western Digital IDE - 40 Gb / Western Digital Sata 200 GB / Sony CDRW Unit.
PSU: Corsair HX 620
Case Fans: 1 x 80 mm Artic exhaust rear fan.
(I know... Winter is over in Canada, I'm planning to upgrade this stove soon)
I followed the instructions and here are the results:

Test Results before IC7:
Thermal paste: ZALMAN ZM-STG1
Ambient Temperature Idle: 38
CPU Temperature Idle: 50
Ambient Temperature Load (after 2 hrs of running OCCT): 46
CPU Temperature Load (after 2 hrs of running OCCT): 66

Test Results after IC7:
Thermal paste: IC Diamond 7 (Sample Supplied by SPCR)
Ambient Temperature Idle: 38
CPU Temperature Idle: 50
Ambient Temperature Load (after 2 hrs of running OCCT): 46
CPU Temperature Load (after 2 hrs of running OCCT): 66

I'm sorry, but my testing shows no changes. The same temperature at idle and under load, no increase or decrease. However, as I said,
I'm tired of this noisy oven.. so I'm looking for something cooler and more quiet... and I still have some IC7 left, so I'll repeat test with the new hardware in a few weeks and post again.

Hope the data is useful, and one more time thanks a lot! :)

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Post by [F]bernZ » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:32 pm

Hmmm still haven't gotten mine yet... I'll be patient.

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Post by Innovation Cooling » Sun Jun 14, 2009 7:57 pm

[quote="[F]bernZ"]Hmmm still haven't gotten mine yet... I'll be patient.[/quote]

The last group I sent out was June 2, Canada takes about 10 days - USA 5 days.

If you do not get it by Tuesday, email Mike as I do not have your aliases to connect to your address as all that info is filtered before I get it.

It is possible I missed a couple.

Also I have 15 or so tubes still available on the giveaway.

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Post by Praxis1452 » Mon Jun 15, 2009 10:09 am

These are prelimary results. Getting more data will take a while as the computer got some bad memory and now I have to reinstall windows, but am now getting no video... lol

Anyway

Testing in a sugo 5 using a geminii on an e8500

AS5
idle: ~39C
Load 50C
Ambient: around 73-75f

IC
idle: 39C
Load: 52C max
Ambient 80-85f

Just wanted to post some early results. I will update with something a bit more accurate later. Also I just reseated it when I added in new ram so perhaps I'll see some better temps with more pressure. The IC paste had not covered the upper 1/5th of the CPU heatspreader when I took it off so I'm expecting a bit better temps. By the way, I'm pretty sure the AS5 was at its optimal. Taking off the paste, I realized that the AS5 had been spread so thin with the mounting pressure that I could actually read the lettering on the processor. Pretty much optimal there.

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Post by Construct » Tue Jun 16, 2009 4:44 pm

Xeon 3520 (2.66GHz stock) at 3.7GHz, 1.25V
Megahalems with Scythe 1200RPM fan

Using OCCT in Linpack mode for 2 hours, maximum temperature measured using Real Temp 3.00

Before (Shin Etsu X23):
75, 74, 74, 73

After (IC7):
71, 71, 71, 69

Definitely impressed. Thanks for the sample.

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Post by CroSsFiRE2.0 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:21 am

Wow..this stuff seems to be pretty good from what I've seen here and on other forums i browse. Any chance this thing is still open to new testers?

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Post by rpgman1 » Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:35 pm

I'll agree to test ICD7. My i7 920 puts out too much heat for my Zalman heatsink can handle. 52*C during idle and 65*C when playing Team Fortress 2 at 2.8GHz. The paste I'm currently using is the Zalman ZM-STG1.

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Post by slimeballzz » Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:49 am

CroSsFiRE2.0 wrote:Any chance this thing is still open to new testers?
+1

I want to try this out as well if it's still open to new testers.

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Post by psiu » Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:09 am

Resent email to Mike...hopefully there's still some samples left.

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Arctic Silver 5 vs ICD

Post by KyonCoraeL » Sat Jun 20, 2009 3:20 pm

I let my brother use the ICD sample I received and he is running a intel stock cooler and his temperature maxed out at 45 degrees celsius with Arctic Silver 5 and now it maxes out at 42 degrees celsius.

ICD = 42 C

AC5 = 45 C.

He is running an intel e6600 (stock clocked)

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