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On Anandtech forums there is a comprehensive thread about the 8800 GT, including a TDP of 110W (which probably means ~80W in practice):
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview ... erthread=y
However, the single slot cooler might be quite noisy, and if RV670 turns out really good then nVidia may rise the clocks of the 8800 GT.
http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview ... erthread=y
However, the single slot cooler might be quite noisy, and if RV670 turns out really good then nVidia may rise the clocks of the 8800 GT.
Foxconn have a product page for the 8800GT card now:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1232433
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/G ... -us0000048#
This is one card where the stock cooler probably needs replacing straight away. It's single slot and that small fan could easily be noisy.
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1232433
http://www.foxconnchannel.com/product/G ... -us0000048#
This is one card where the stock cooler probably needs replacing straight away. It's single slot and that small fan could easily be noisy.
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Seems like a decent midrange card. I've been following nvidia news and I'm surprised at how little information was leaked to this point.
In any case this would be an interesting card to say the least. It's rumored to have 112sp's and clocked at 600MHz which is better than 8800GTS (although the number of ROPs is still unknown and nvidia indicated they might up 8800GTS specifications to either 112sps or even 128sps). Shaders clock is rumored to be 1500MHz which is more than 8800GTX (1350MHz). So far so good, assuming this is all true. The only real downside is memory interface which is supposed to be only 256bit compared to 320 on GTS and 384 on GTX. On the other hand the card that tomshardware.tw got had 1000MHz memory chips, running at 900MHz default, with some luck you could probably overclock them to default frequency of 2000MHz which should help slower bus interface ( so it would become the battle of 256bit/1800MHz+ on GT vs 320bit/1600MHz+ on GTS ).
I'm still waiting for real reviews, if once again rumors about 512Mb model being priced at $250 are true and if vendors won't hike the prices as they did with Q6600, it will be a killer card. The performance should be roughly equal to GTS variant, overcloking 65nm GPU and 1000MHz memory will probably be easier as well. 65nm GPU will also dissipate less heat as well so it might be even passively cooled by S1 cooler provided it has some airflow. The bad thing about the card is stupid single slot cooler which exhausts heat back into the case and which will need to be replaced right away thus adding to the $250 price point (I'm hoping some manufacturers will change heatsink design to 8800 gts style).
I kind of hoped for a new generation of cards from nVidia, after all the current 8800 architecture is already one year old and going, but 8800GT isn't bad either if it can be further overclocked and cooled silently.
In any case this would be an interesting card to say the least. It's rumored to have 112sp's and clocked at 600MHz which is better than 8800GTS (although the number of ROPs is still unknown and nvidia indicated they might up 8800GTS specifications to either 112sps or even 128sps). Shaders clock is rumored to be 1500MHz which is more than 8800GTX (1350MHz). So far so good, assuming this is all true. The only real downside is memory interface which is supposed to be only 256bit compared to 320 on GTS and 384 on GTX. On the other hand the card that tomshardware.tw got had 1000MHz memory chips, running at 900MHz default, with some luck you could probably overclock them to default frequency of 2000MHz which should help slower bus interface ( so it would become the battle of 256bit/1800MHz+ on GT vs 320bit/1600MHz+ on GTS ).
I'm still waiting for real reviews, if once again rumors about 512Mb model being priced at $250 are true and if vendors won't hike the prices as they did with Q6600, it will be a killer card. The performance should be roughly equal to GTS variant, overcloking 65nm GPU and 1000MHz memory will probably be easier as well. 65nm GPU will also dissipate less heat as well so it might be even passively cooled by S1 cooler provided it has some airflow. The bad thing about the card is stupid single slot cooler which exhausts heat back into the case and which will need to be replaced right away thus adding to the $250 price point (I'm hoping some manufacturers will change heatsink design to 8800 gts style).
I kind of hoped for a new generation of cards from nVidia, after all the current 8800 architecture is already one year old and going, but 8800GT isn't bad either if it can be further overclocked and cooled silently.
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Oh god, I just read that unlike the existing 8800GTX, the 8800GT will use a similar cooler mounting as 7*00/6*00 series, so it can take all kinds of existing aftermarket GPU coolers.
Meaning it could, unlike 8800GTX, be made to run with passive, or almost passive cooling with a quiet 120mm fan strapped on, using an Accelero S1 or other such.
This is AWESOME, I can't wait to get my hands on that card.
Meaning it could, unlike 8800GTX, be made to run with passive, or almost passive cooling with a quiet 120mm fan strapped on, using an Accelero S1 or other such.
This is AWESOME, I can't wait to get my hands on that card.
Didn't the GTX support the HR-03 GPU cooler? Anyway, I hope there will be 2-Slot variants, since then one could refrain from going for an after market cooler right away.
The first benchmarks sure look promesing. We will know more next Monday
Best regards, Gundy
The first benchmarks sure look promesing. We will know more next Monday
Best regards, Gundy
I've heard the 256mb version will retail at $199, and the 512mb version at $249. Even if it is only slightly slower, or on par with a 320mb GTS, the fact that its so cheep will make it the better bang for the buck.
I see everyone complaining about the single slot cooler, and how it will likely be loud. Think about it this way. If such a powerful VGA card can be cooled with a likely el-cheepo stock single slot cooler, then it will probably be very easy for aftermarket graphics card makers to create passive versions of it. You gotta think outside the box people.
I was really dissapointed that the "new" 8600 series was on par, and sometimes slightly better than my 7600 card. This card is what we should have gotten in the beggining to replace the 7600 midrange cards with. I'm very much looking forward to it. I had almost lost all hope and gone with a 8800gts and slap an aftermarket cooler on it. Hopefully with this card i can get a good stock passive single slot variant that may be faster.
I see everyone complaining about the single slot cooler, and how it will likely be loud. Think about it this way. If such a powerful VGA card can be cooled with a likely el-cheepo stock single slot cooler, then it will probably be very easy for aftermarket graphics card makers to create passive versions of it. You gotta think outside the box people.
I was really dissapointed that the "new" 8600 series was on par, and sometimes slightly better than my 7600 card. This card is what we should have gotten in the beggining to replace the 7600 midrange cards with. I'm very much looking forward to it. I had almost lost all hope and gone with a 8800gts and slap an aftermarket cooler on it. Hopefully with this card i can get a good stock passive single slot variant that may be faster.
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http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1210/1 ... index.html
an default-overclocked MSI 8800GT consumed 10 more watts at load than the Palit 8800GTS. I've no idea whether the 8800GTS is overclocked or not.
an default-overclocked MSI 8800GT consumed 10 more watts at load than the Palit 8800GTS. I've no idea whether the 8800GTS is overclocked or not.
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According to VR-Zone, power consumption is lower than the 640MB GTS:
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_ ... 69-12.html
Does anyone know if the VRMs need cooling? I can't tell from the pictures I've seen.
http://www.vr-zone.com/articles/Nvidia_ ... 69-12.html
Does anyone know if the VRMs need cooling? I can't tell from the pictures I've seen.
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Tomshardware: Quiet?
According to... http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/ ... oise_level the 8800 GT is pretty much on par with the 8800 GTS. As to how accurate or discriminating his techniques really are... *shrugs* But, at the least, this seems to indicate that the 8800 GT won't be a leaf blower.
--Garfield3d
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From the pictures at vr-zone, it seems that the layout of the 8800 GT is similar to the 7900 GTX (which I have now).
But the GPU seems to have no heatspreader, is this correct? I wonder if the TR HR-03 is directly compatible with the 8800 GT?
Update: here is the Anandtech power chart, the 8800 GT seems to draw about the same as my 7900 GTX: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=13
But the GPU seems to have no heatspreader, is this correct? I wonder if the TR HR-03 is directly compatible with the 8800 GT?
Update: here is the Anandtech power chart, the 8800 GT seems to draw about the same as my 7900 GTX: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3140&p=13
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The HR-03 Plus doesn't fit according to HardwareCanucks. Apparantly it has the same mounting holes as the 8600GTS.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... eview.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... eview.html
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A die-shrink and faster clocks with lower power consumption than faster cards? Smells a lot like my 6800GS, which cools nicely with a Zalman VF700-Cu. This should have been called 8800GS.
Complaining about a noisy cooler on this card is like not buying your dream house because of the interior paint colors (provided we can actually fit our aftermarket cooler of choice.) If you don't already have a similarly performing NV card and want one, this is the one to get IMO.
Complaining about a noisy cooler on this card is like not buying your dream house because of the interior paint colors (provided we can actually fit our aftermarket cooler of choice.) If you don't already have a similarly performing NV card and want one, this is the one to get IMO.
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Re: Tomshardware: Quiet?
tom is a F***ing moron.Garfield3d wrote:According to... http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/10/29/ ... oise_level the 8800 GT is pretty much on par with the 8800 GTS. As to how accurate or discriminating his techniques really are... *shrugs* But, at the least, this seems to indicate that the 8800 GT won't be a leaf blower.
--Garfield3d
that being said, the 8800GT beats the GTS in any memory configuration in 9 out of 10 tests currently shown around the web. I have not been on Tom's sight in a while. It has royally screwed my up purchase choices before with it's inane drivel.
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... es-passive
look at that crap.
Passive. full clock. full feature. 2-5 frames from GTX.
previous gts owners = pwnd
A year is a long time though and that should have been understood.
Same thing happened to the x1900xt vs x1950 series cards. cheaper by far, works better, year later.
Many of the 8800 GT listed by Overclockers UK are factory overclocked, I wonder if that happens for makes other that BFG and EVGA:
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... subid=1008
They say most 8800 GT cards will be available tomorrow.
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/productli ... subid=1008
They say most 8800 GT cards will be available tomorrow.
Re: Tomshardware: Quiet?
OMG. OMG.~El~Jefe~ wrote: http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquirer/ ... es-passive
look at that crap.
Passive. full clock. full feature. 2-5 frames from GTX.
When dreams come true... a passive powerfull card. I hope is ok to mount this beast in my Antec P150
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Well, seems like 8800GT beats GTS fair and square in every resolution except 25x16 and 19x12 with 4xAA/16xAF where memory size/memory bandwidth become an issue. Given that evga is supposed to come out with superclocked version at 700/2000/1750 (compared to stock 600/1800/1500) at $289 MSRP this is going to be a winner.
Finally, affordable (relatively speaking) performance to the masses, although Crysis performance is still lacking but that's hardly surprising. The only problem left to solve is puny noisy cooler. Anyone knows of any compatible after market coolers? Zalman VF900 or Accelero S1 maybe?
Finally, affordable (relatively speaking) performance to the masses, although Crysis performance is still lacking but that's hardly surprising. The only problem left to solve is puny noisy cooler. Anyone knows of any compatible after market coolers? Zalman VF900 or Accelero S1 maybe?
The Chinese site that was first in reviewing this card last week said something about HR03 (non Plus) fitting. Can't find the article right now though, so don't take this as truth just yet.Amourek wrote:The HR-03 Plus doesn't fit according to HardwareCanucks. Apparantly it has the same mounting holes as the 8600GTS.
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha ... eview.html