scythe ninja or hr-01 plus?
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scythe ninja or hr-01 plus?
I have an e6300 in a Cooler Master Centurion 531 with a cooler master hyper 48, it is really loud even on low. So I am looking for a new cooler possibly passive. I was looking at a thermalright hr-01 or a scythe ninja rev b. I know that the ninja is much cheaper I was wondering how it compares to the hr-01?
any suggestions?
any suggestions?
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The ninja has a larger surface area, which will give it great potential for passive cooling, but the HR-01 (unless i'm mistaken) has a duct to the exhaust fan. the duct will be great for semi-passive cooling on the heatsink, but its important to think of the effect this will have on the rest of the system.
i'd just go for a ninja with a 120mm fan modded to 7v, or even an 800RPM slipstream.
another option could be a Thermalright Ultra 120/ the Ultra 120 Extreme. with even a low speed 120mm fan, it's one of the best coolers you can have.
i'd just go for a ninja with a 120mm fan modded to 7v, or even an 800RPM slipstream.
another option could be a Thermalright Ultra 120/ the Ultra 120 Extreme. with even a low speed 120mm fan, it's one of the best coolers you can have.
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You're in luck. SPCR has reviewed the HR-01. The results compared to the Ninja are here. The Ninja barely manages to outperform the HR-01. Overall, either one will suit your needs. However, since the HR-01 is more expensive, it would make more sense to get the Ninja.
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FYI, I think Elijah86 is talking about the hr-01 PLUS, which has 6 heatpipes instead of 4. I've had the same pondering question for a while on the performance of the hr-01 plus. The only review of it that I've seen was the one on that German site. I would love to see spcr review it. ....Maybe you could just bite the bullet and go with the hr-01 plus . The ninja for me had a bit lackluster performance. I personally regretted not going with the hr-01 plus, that's just me. I think most here would disagree with my opinion though.
I wonder even more if either of these giants will actually fit in that case. I really like this case and want to use one in a future build but this is one consideration I always come back to.
Any reason you didn't look at the H.D.T. coolers? I think I've seen pictures of these around this forum running passively, at least in one or two builds...
Any reason you didn't look at the H.D.T. coolers? I think I've seen pictures of these around this forum running passively, at least in one or two builds...
It wasn't as black and white as that. MikeC noted that SPCR's original Ninja sample was perceived to be an exceptional performer, whilst the doubts about the Rev. B centred around the mounting system. When the push-pins were replaced with a bolt-thru kit the Rev. B's performance fell back into line with expectations. I can testify from personal experience that a bolt-thru kit does make a difference with that hs. Although you'd have to factor in the cost of course!The Chief wrote:When SPCR reviewed the copper version of the ninja they found that the Rev B. version isn't nearly as good as the original.
The HR-01 performed almost as good as the original ninja so it should perform much better then the Rev B.
The above plus a lot of complains in the forum about Ninja Rev.B are the main reason I bought HR01 Plus. I'm very happy with the result.The Chief wrote:When SPCR reviewed the copper version of the ninja they found that the Rev B. version isn't nearly as good as the original.
At the time I bought mine, HR01 Plus was a few dollars cheaper than Ninja Rev.B. Just looked up on the local on-line stores HR01+ is still USD 5 cheaper.angelkiller wrote:However, since the HR-01 is more expensive,...
Ok, maybe it wasn't as black and white as I made out but I still think it's pretty clear.It wasn't as black and white as that. MikeC noted that SPCR's original Ninja sample was perceived to be an exceptional performer, whilst the doubts about the Rev. B centred around the mounting system. When the push-pins were replaced with a bolt-thru kit the Rev. B's performance fell back into line with expectations.
The mounting system is probably the problem with the Rev B but if he's not planning on getting a bolt through kit for it then my point stands.
Even with a bolt through kit the HR-01 still wins (albeit by a smaller margin):
From here http://www.silentpcreview.com/article805-page6.html
Original Ninja (new test)
12v = 15 degree rise
9v = 16
7v = 19
5v = 21
Rev B ninja with bolt-thru kit
12v = 21 degree rise
9v = 22
7v = 24
5v = 26
and here
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article290-page5.html
Thermalright HR-01
12v = 18 degree rise
9v = 19
7v = 20
5v = 22
The HR-01 beats the Rev B + bolt through kit by 3-4 degrees at each speed using the reference nexus.
See here:Elijah86 wrote:Well I think if spcr was showing the orig. hr-01 (non plus) being on par with the ninja regardless of mounting method, then that must mean that the hr-01 plus would be a better for what im looking for.
I just wish there were a review pitting them both together.
http://www.silenthardware.de/reviews/cp ... index.html
With 800rpm S-Flex, the HR01+ outperforms Ultra120-Extreme, Ninja Rev B, Xigmatek 1283
With 1200rpm S-Flex, the HR01+ is practically equal to the Ultra120-Extreme, and outperforms Ninja Rev B, Xigmatek 1283
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That site you linked to has some very useful reviews. Although the hr-01 has superb performance even with a 500rpm fan the ninja seems to have the edge in passive cooling.
Personally I think that if skythe paid more attention to quality (mounting system, soldering heatpipes) the ninja could perform just as well as the thermalright and noctua with a low rpm fan.
The ninja copper is amazing in passive mode, I deeply regret not bying it when I could.
Personally I think that if skythe paid more attention to quality (mounting system, soldering heatpipes) the ninja could perform just as well as the thermalright and noctua with a low rpm fan.
The ninja copper is amazing in passive mode, I deeply regret not bying it when I could.
He didn't ask about the HR-01.angelkiller wrote:You're in luck. SPCR has reviewed the HR-01. The results compared to the Ninja are here. The Ninja barely manages to outperform the HR-01. Overall, either one will suit your needs. However, since the HR-01 is more expensive, it would make more sense to get the Ninja.
He asked about the HR-01 Plus!
Here are the actual results:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article842-page4.html
Also check the updated Recommended CPU HSF ranking:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article30-page1.html[/i]
It seems the HR-01 Plus is consistently 3-4C better. As for fan I don't have a clue on what to get. I'm wondering the same!
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That's basically the exact setup I have, but my 120mm fan is an intake, and it's the only one in the case. I'm using the HR-01+, I don't have a Ninja to compare to though.Plekto wrote:I really need to see which works better purely passive, IN A CASE.(assuming a single 120mm exhaust fan and a passive/PICO type PS)
Farting whats your case, GPU and fan setup in a nutshell? Have you lapped CPU or HS and does it use the Thermalright bolt-thru? Did you stress test CPU and GPU to create heat or is that under "normal stress" conditions?FartingBob wrote:The ninja rev b passively cools my E6600, unless its a hot day i dont see temps above 54c, and i do alot of video encoding. I did have a 800rpm s-flex fan on there, but after i took it off max temps only rose 2c, so i guess my case airflow is doing most of the work anyway.
Because Mike's review of the Ninja rev.B with bolt-thru still had it behind the TRUE even with very low airflow.
Testing with P95 and 3Dmark I cant quite run my E4300 + TRUE passive. I have an Antec SLK3000B (modded a bit), 2 x 500-600rpm slipstreams and PSU with a piddly 80mm fan that exhausts next to zilch.
Cheers
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article842-page1.html
HR-01 Plus Review!
Sweet! That just seals the deal then.
HR-01 Plus Review!
Sweet! That just seals the deal then.
Doh.
The FrostyTech reference pointed right back to SPCR. Sorry for the circular reference. That will teach me to not count on memory...
I was very impressed with how thorough this review was, and how well suited the Plus is for low flow cooling. It is also not as wide, which is a problem on some boards.
The bolt-through mounting method is a big plus.
The FrostyTech reference pointed right back to SPCR. Sorry for the circular reference. That will teach me to not count on memory...
I was very impressed with how thorough this review was, and how well suited the Plus is for low flow cooling. It is also not as wide, which is a problem on some boards.
The bolt-through mounting method is a big plus.
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However that mounting is exact the same with SI-128 SE, meaning you still can be able to rotate cooler even when fully tighten. Simplies way is to use penny mod and place penny between bar and cooler or pretty thick rubber bad. I find with rubber bad between cooler and attachment bar will secure cooler enough tightly to make rotation very hard to do without using significantly force, when without rubber it was easily rotated.