One world, same tourist dollar.Fayd wrote: i said your POV is completely negated because you arent a US citizen.
Plus I love to hear what the others think of US policy.
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out of idle curiousity, how many black people do you talk to in mendocino?xan_user wrote:QFT!judge56988 wrote:Perhaps it is the nature of society in America that causes the high violent crime rate. Maybe that is where peoples attention should be focused.
How many black people, you don't already know, did you actually ask?Zargon wrote:
the only one that is racist is the witchdoctor one. comparing him to hitler, while wrong and offensive, simply isnt racist.
Who said everyone was a vigilante?- even tho they are the ones buying more of these 'guns' along with the racists.
My point, that you keep missing, is our forefathers wouldn't call citizens with hunting for human weapons on their hips in public places a well regulated militia.
We deregulated the markets, and in the long run things got worse than ever.
If we dont regulate guns better, we will get nothing but the continued escalation of violence.
Time to send the Memphis police to face terrorism charges!WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn. Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.
Any government that supports, protects or harbours terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent and equally guilty of terrorist crimes.
every single one!Fayd wrote:
out of idle curiousity, how many black people do you talk to in mendocino?
rofl.
i dont think there's a black person in Sonoma. looking on a census data website, your city is 90% white. the other significant ethnicities are hispanic, and strangely, american indian.xan_user wrote:Time to send the Memphis police to face terrorism charges!WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn. Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.Any government that supports, protects or harbours terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent and equally guilty of terrorist crimes.
every single one!Fayd wrote:
out of idle curiousity, how many black people do you talk to in mendocino?
rofl.
my darker roots are in Oakland...Try waving an Obama is a nazi/witchdoctor/white-face sign while walking around OakTown and you can report back on how it went.
it is a two pronged sign. it's comparing obama's healthcare to mysticism. IE, bullshit. the text is comparing it to communism. so what? how is that attempting to "denigrate african culture"?NeilBlanchard wrote:The picture with President Obama's face stuck onto the body of a shaman also includes the hammer & sickle, so were they implying that African leaders are communists? If you don't think that this image was meant to denigrate African culture and black people in general and the current president in particular, then you need to look up the definition of "white privilege". I think you are blinded by your own point of view.
do you really need for me to spell it out?And what part(s) of my last post is BS?
i keep seeing those links, and yet, the guns mexican cartels are using CAN'T be bought over the counter in the united states. if you'd think about it for 2 seconds, maybe you'd realize that.BOT: do you know where almost all the guns used in the Juarez drug war are being purchased?
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162- ... 03543.html
http://www.alternet.org/drugs/132120/me ... e_country/
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =124653688
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/stor ... =121836013
What does it say when Mexico has stricter gun laws than the USA, and what does it say about putting all sorts of weapons in the hands of everybody?
You can ask the latino and native (strange how?)community around here about those posters too, and get the basically the same answers as you would in oakland, you just might have to pick up your teeth off the side walk after you ask in the eastbay.Fayd wrote:i dont think there's a black person in Sonoma. looking on a census data website, your city is 90% white. the other significant ethnicities are hispanic, and strangely, american indian.xan_user wrote:Time to send the Memphis police to face terrorism charges!WASHINGTON — Two guns used in high-profile shootings this year at the Pentagon and a Las Vegas courthouse both came from the same unlikely place: the police and court system of Memphis, Tenn. Law enforcement officials told The Associated Press that both guns were once seized in criminal cases in Memphis. The officials described how the weapons made their separate ways from an evidence vault to gun dealers and to the shooters.Any government that supports, protects or harbours terrorists is complicit in the murder of the innocent and equally guilty of terrorist crimes.
every single one!Fayd wrote:
out of idle curiousity, how many black people do you talk to in mendocino?
rofl.
my darker roots are in Oakland...Try waving an Obama is a nazi/witchdoctor/white-face sign while walking around OakTown and you can report back on how it went.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Sonoma-California.html
you're so deluded that you think everyone's objection to obama and his political policies is because he's black, rather than he's a bad president with horrible ideas.
thus, you're not allowed to disagree with him, because "that's racist!".
do you truly believe the shit you spew?
you continue to state that it is racist, and you have yet to describe HOW it is racist.xan_user wrote:You can ask the latino and native (strange how?)community around here about those posters too, and get the basically the same answers as you would in oakland, you just might have to pick up your teeth off the side walk after you ask in the eastbay.Fayd wrote:i dont think there's a black person in Sonoma. looking on a census data website, your city is 90% white. the other significant ethnicities are hispanic, and strangely, american indian.xan_user wrote: Time to send the Memphis police to face terrorism charges! every single one!
my darker roots are in Oakland...Try waving an Obama is a nazi/witchdoctor/white-face sign while walking around OakTown and you can report back on how it went.
http://www.city-data.com/city/Sonoma-California.html
you're so deluded that you think everyone's objection to obama and his political policies is because he's black, rather than he's a bad president with horrible ideas.
thus, you're not allowed to disagree with him, because "that's racist!".
do you truly believe the shit you spew?
In 1970 my oldest friend moved out here from the bronx, they are a mixed race couple. They attended several churches and each one suggested "they might feel more comfortable" at the next one. when you see a demographic skewed to the white, you can usually blame the church fro most of it. Sonoma is a small upper class town in the county i live on the border of. but since you just looked it up you might not realize, its just full of BnB and wineries supported by illegal migrant workforce, the census does not even count. basically its like looking at Beverley Hills demographic and then saying the whole LA basin is that makeup too.
when exactly was i tooting obamas horn? the dudes killed tons of afgans to get the opium trade back up and running so they can make US money again.
Why exactly do you think I wanted you to ask some brothahs & sistahs in person?Fayd wrote: you have yet to describe HOW it is racist.
you don't seem to get it.xan_user wrote:Why exactly do you think I wanted you to ask some brothahs & sistahs in person?Fayd wrote: you have yet to describe HOW it is racist.
The answers to your question of 'how', would carry much more meaning in person, than any bytes I could ever type. -those that said it was not racist simply need to ask some of the darker people around them, how the human hunters wearing their semi-autos to baskin robins while waving signs like those makes them feel...
Ignoring veiled racism, is still racism. Let me know when the teabaggers and freedom fighters start calling for the 40 acres and a mule to be paid forward.
just like the douches that fly the confederate flag and "say im not a racist."Fayd wrote: .
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and until your willing to talk and listen to those effected by racism, you never will.-it's clear to me that you don't seem to get it.
the civil war was fought over states rights, not exclusively slavery.xan_user wrote:just like the douches that fly the confederate flag and "say im not a racist."Fayd wrote: .
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+1NeilBlanchard wrote:Racism is an attitude, held by people. If those people are white, and the opinions they are expressing are about blacks -- then you better ask a black person how they feel about it. Who else will have a valid opinion about racism about black people? If you ask other whites, and they say it isn't racism, that doesn't prove anything.
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And all of what these folks are talking about is a put down of President Obama being black (whatever that means). Nobody ever made fun of President Bush being white, did they?
There's a certain book that people do that with all over the world...in fact its the misinterpretation of that book that's ruined many cultures, not 'just US'. Racist gun nuts love to quote that book...even tho the main characters in it are black.frenchie wrote:
IMO, the issue about guns (sorry to be getting back on topic ) is an issue with the American Constitution in general. People take it word for word, forgetting about the context it was written in.
the fact that you tihnk that someone saying something is racist makes it racist, makes your opinion on those matters useless dudexan_user wrote:There's a certain book that people do that with all over the world...in fact its the misinterpretation of that book that's ruined many cultures, not 'just US'. Racist gun nuts love to quote that book...even tho the main characters in it are black.frenchie wrote:
IMO, the issue about guns (sorry to be getting back on topic ) is an issue with the American Constitution in general. People take it word for word, forgetting about the context it was written in.
Staying on topic,when can I get my constitutionally permitted ICBM installed on my nuclear sub?
no, communism bears similarities to 'progressiveism', in that progressiveism is essentially socialism. I dont like the comparison to Nazism, but the comparison to communism is valid based on that premise.NeilBlanchard wrote:How have we made an assumptions about you, based on your skin color? Until you said so, I have no idea what your heritage is.
BTW, there is no such thing as race, per se -- just what skin color and other traits you got from your parents. There are no actual genetic differences.
Of course all criticism of President Obama are not racist -- I have criticisms of him based on what he has done, or not done. But, the two pictures we have been discussing are blatantly racist, period. And frankly, the things the sign holders are accusing him of are erroneous and delusional. Nazism is a very different thing from communism, and each are virtually opposite from so-called progressivism. I know some Jewish folks who were all wound up about how Obama was going to completely change all the policies toward Israel -- and they were completely unfounded, too.
Has President Obama changed any gun laws? Or, is the topic of this thread just paranoia?
Demonstrators outside the U.S. Capitol, angry over the proposed health care bill, shouted "nigger" Saturday at U.S. Rep. John Lewis, a Georgia congressman and civil rights icon who was nearly beaten to death during an Alabama march in the 1960s.
"This is what change looks like."flapane wrote:Here we are, the House of Rep. has just said "YES" to health care.
some of them are yes.xan_user wrote: but that doesn't change that the racially threatened, sign carrying, teabaggers fighting to carry weapons of human destruction do so because they hate we have a black man in office.